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Episode 087 | “Character Building”

September 21, 2023 “The LINK Up Podcast”, “Platonically Speaking”, “Bright & Facety” and “So You’re 30.. Now What?” and more! Episode 87
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On this episode:  A full house returns with special guest Jevy. The weekly recaps consists of High School fights, teachers, checking kid’s phones & D grabs the mic. Remember “Men be nasteh!” - Kayla. Also, Parliament gets social, the myth of what a Government can/can’t do & the disconnect amongst the people. Football is for fun, the love of the game. Women lying to protect men’s egos plus some good ole’ Government hating, this & much more!

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

Welcome to the LinkUp podcast. Another episode back again. Another week I play a host, call me Vic, call me Victor. To my left, to my right, we have maybe getting me for my left and my right. Shit To my right, have, kayla? How you doing, kayla?

Speaker 3:

Hi guys, I'm good, I'm here Marking attendance.

Speaker 2:

Ross? No, he is no marking attendance. Hi Kisha. How you doing, kisha?

Speaker 4:

Hi, vic, I'm okay. How are you hey?

Speaker 2:

hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, accept that voice, my girl. That's the other show one.

Speaker 4:

Not put it in chat.

Speaker 2:

Rashad, what's good? How are you Good? Promotable boy no, I'm not promotable. Nate Carnival boy no just an event organizer.

Speaker 2:

Event organizer. Yeah, not too crazy. Okay, um, javi, what's up how you doing? Thanks for joining us. Thank you, man. What's up? Javi, got a man to watch. Man, I'm gonna have to put on some Air Force ones. You trying to get me robbo? Meet him outside. Wanna take my tape? I'll watch off his wrist. No, um, welcome to the podcast. One is another, another week. Let's recap, see how things are going, what's been going on, what's been good? Um, first and foremost, I want to start with Chris. Chris is not here Again. If you see, chris, y'all free to get on. Chris.

Speaker 4:

Miss you salsa poppy.

Speaker 2:

We do. Um, chris was supposed to be here, but he, celebrating in victory for Rory, actually won a race this week, finally, yeah. So shout out to Chris. Um, he's probably still home from the from the race celebrations. Um, it was a good ass race too, by the way, but yeah, they finally won, so I can't even talk shit to him no more. I and his dolphins are winning. So shout out to salsa poppy. Shout out to Chris. You see, chris bought him up, slapped him once or twice for me, um, and hopefully he'll be back joining us soon and giving us an update on what's going on with him. Um, for the most part, full house. Let's get right into it. What's been good, what's been bad? Um, ladies first or not, okay, ladies, okay, not not. First, you'll close it out. Yeah, women always lane, but you can't trust women. Um, I'm sure I was a night carnival.

Speaker 5:

Oh no, I just wearing the shirt. One I know, but I thought until next year.

Speaker 2:

I saw the photos in Jamaica.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, kayla. Kayla could tell you more about that one. I couldn't go, unfortunately.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you couldn't go, you walk right into it?

Speaker 5:

No, I just, I just had other stuff to do Prioritizing.

Speaker 2:

I heard you talking about fiscal responsibility, and you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5:

I'm a needy, needy, smart, maybe smart.

Speaker 2:

Sounds like you, sound like you know, I was like. I was like I'm a Jamaica. Kayla, what you can discuss?

Speaker 3:

I can discuss everything what you thought was happening over there I saw some of the photos. And what did you see?

Speaker 2:

I was getting on by, they saw it. Okay Night carnival.

Speaker 3:

It was really good. The trip overall was good. It was just nice to get away. I needed a break, but night carnival is amazing, so hence why we brought it here. It was good. My week's been going good Cause I know you were talking about uh-oh.

Speaker 2:

They got a new microphone, they're calling. You know, keesha actually had a prior engagement before recording with us tonight, so Will that your engagement Like engagement? No, no, no Other engagement.

Speaker 4:

Actually that is my weekly call from my grandmother with my food, so we need to sweep this up.

Speaker 2:

My dinner is calling. Here she go, here she go.

Speaker 4:

Your granny cooks for you each week, yes, yes, for the whole family. I love her. That's so cute.

Speaker 2:

What she made this week.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I'm not sure. I don't know what to call. No, we missed it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 4:

Call her back.

Speaker 2:

Granny named Kevin and I went Kevin trying to line it up. She's like what is it? Okay, I'm gonna let you get it off, cause that was cute and family stuff. Um, javi, what's up with you man? What's been good, what's been bad, how you been Been a minute since we've seen you.

Speaker 6:

I've been good yeah.

Speaker 2:

You been off like parliament.

Speaker 6:

You been on a break. Good segue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no man, I just been keeping to myself and just chilling line Keeping to myself All of you, you going in trouble with me?

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, come on, no, no, I just been keeping to myself. I've been in court.

Speaker 6:

No, not for me because I'm a court reporter.

Speaker 2:

But you know that's all I've been up to. You've been good. Yeah, I've been good.

Speaker 6:

How you doing, how you, how you doing. Can you look in stress I saw you looking for anyway.

Speaker 2:

I'm I'm stressed, bro. I'm gonna wrangle all these people together. Looking at Rashad. Rashad being bi. He was a kid in class, I wasn't paying attention. You know what I'm saying Coming in late after the bell and ring three times. No, no, no.

Speaker 3:

That were our other friends, no no, I always went class early.

Speaker 5:

What I signed? The bot. Oh, you had this in the bot for sure no, but then they would move me to the front. Why Cause he?

Speaker 2:

was a trolling yeah.

Speaker 5:

You don't blinks. No, but I always finished my work though. So they can never say he don't do no work. I would just do the work quick and then start talking shit. And then just try to other kids, yeah, but who tell them to move so slow? Speed it up, speed it up. Tell me a leader and a follower.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, in the worst class, rashad used to do this religious studies. I love that class. She was such a good teacher.

Speaker 2:

Why you love religious studies.

Speaker 5:

No, the teacher was just really nice, and that was what a class I shared with, like most of my friends.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you really was fucking up in that class like just being bi, yeah, who?

Speaker 3:

would know it was you that were permanently moved to the front, alex.

Speaker 5:

Cheds, I think.

Speaker 2:

I can see him.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, okay, you were permanently moved to the front.

Speaker 2:

Let's go there, let's go back to high school. Real quick In the news and this week, violence, violence, a lot. Is it really a lot of violence?

Speaker 6:

No, oh sorry. I thought you're asking what was in the news this week and I was answering a lot.

Speaker 5:

I wasn't okay, okay, there was a lot of violence. Sorry about that. Is it? Is it because of the phones? Like no, why we seeing more of it? Because I remember back in high school like fights were happening all the time.

Speaker 3:

Like yeah well I did. I explained to Kaden in particular that I was like the amount of fights are just fighting in general is really no different than when we were in school. Frankly, I felt most of them were actually worse than some of the stuff I'm seeing now. Obviously it doesn't make it right in any sense, but the exposure to the public is the big difference. Like we still had phones but our camera quality was fucking shit by the time he had it and he was only sending stuff by infrared at that point. So infrared.

Speaker 2:

You remember that joke. You know, you kind of young, you don't know what. You're.

Speaker 6:

Looking at me kind of listen, I'm not going all the way about there with you and Moses. Okay, you sound like you send the messages off the arc. Don't bring me in today.

Speaker 3:

You have put the phone next to each other.

Speaker 2:

I had to be close.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, I think I think that's the main reason why it's highlighted in the way. It is because I've seen people get stopped up in school. First of all, the girls fought way more than guys when we were in school and they were always fighting over man and they were always ganging up some next girl. They were kicking each other's ass in the bathroom, like the fights always happened in the bathroom.

Speaker 2:

So we couldn't see.

Speaker 3:

No, so all you saw was like a crowd outside of the bathroom, and then eventually, sometimes they would get dragged out the bathroom and you saw everything.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we appreciate that.

Speaker 3:

You know. So I think I don't, I don't, I genuinely don't think it's a case of it's more than what it was. I don't think so. The exposure is just a lot more.

Speaker 2:

D's looking at us like we crazy because he went to a good school so he had none of that. You know no issues.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, you, but no, not that they had probably drugs up there. They had the opposite of that. Let's let's know, let's call the speed. Of speed. That's what in private schools had we had drugs.

Speaker 6:

I agree with our 100%. Then private schools. But the drug is what. We know it First time anyway yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

don't go and commit yourself, it's free up from the court.

Speaker 5:

Oh, I need to edit, see this one I'm talking about. No, I just private, you know, got in it.

Speaker 2:

Not, didn't do that to know that my first experience with yeah, you see why I shut up.

Speaker 3:

Shut talking to the fans. Stand up, stand up.

Speaker 2:

Where the Catholic fans are fucked up from the from rubbing up on the field. Okay, can I get too close?

Speaker 5:

No, you can't go too close on. Fans are dirty.

Speaker 2:

All right. So, first and foremost, yet I don't want to see none of those little dudes getting into fights and getting hurt. You know what I'm saying we hope for nobody seriously injured. Another component to that, too, is that this shit now lives on forever Because this is on people's phones. This is online. They're not going nowhere. Back in the day, you get beat by Burger King. If you wasn't there, nobody's. You know what I'm saying. Nobody saw it Monday. It was a little thing in school and that was it. No people watching this on loop. You know what I'm saying. Send it on SNAP, sending it on IG. You done made the moral role, for example. That part, I think, would add 10 times more of a negative effect on a person. So definitely not making light of those dudes getting hurt, getting injured and that sort of trauma that comes with having one of those moments videotaped and now living on forever.

Speaker 3:

They spoke about that last night at John Gray in particular.

Speaker 2:

Give us a recap on that?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there was a meeting for the parents. Members of police were there, members of government were there.

Speaker 2:

And when I say government.

Speaker 3:

People from department of education was there. Oh gosh, who else was there? Roy, was there? A couple of people?

Speaker 2:

while we're there, this is for the one fight Like this.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, this is well. It came about because parents were basically pleading to the PTA to be like, look, we don't really want just somebody sending us an email. Can somebody meet with us and kind of really get us all on the same page as to how this is going to be handled? I think for a lot of parents too, it's like new parents coming into the school.

Speaker 3:

Yeah they're probably scared and nervous Parents like me, there were a lot of students that have transferred into John Gray at other year groups as well, so I think it was really driven by that, but they did say that one. It was the most attendance from parents from this type of initiative, so there was more than 100 parents on Zoom, and then the performance hall was pretty packed as well. I don't know the capacity there, but it looked like it could have been around 100 parents.

Speaker 2:

It's the second week of school, though Like this is of course, their attendance is going to be high.

Speaker 3:

No, they're yeah, but they said why are you laughing?

Speaker 6:

for it, Terry. It's a good point. I remember going to school.

Speaker 2:

you're right, you know my parents are the first week too.

Speaker 3:

Second term.

Speaker 2:

no, I might get shaken, but it just seems like, based on the feedback, you just stick to yourself and no trouble, nobody, okay, you just you see them going that way, you go the other way.

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry. Oh, I thought I thought I was going to say something. No, I was.

Speaker 5:

I was going to say my mom over there like every month or like every couple weeks, because I want to report.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so that's what you had to come sign off, I was going to report for a little bit Shut up progress.

Speaker 5:

Sorry, yeah.

Speaker 3:

But like.

Speaker 5:

I wasn't far a little bit. I went on report for a little bit a good minute. It was no getting off.

Speaker 3:

Things like that too. Like I kind of have like this running list of questions that I thought about after the fact because it didn't necessarily come up in there, Like I'm not sure the situation with kids still like doing things like detention. If you had, what would I?

Speaker 5:

do I want to call it withdrawal?

Speaker 2:

Withdrawal, withdrawal, yeah, I think I'm going to talk about the withdrawal Prison.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, cornerstone, they don't do withdrawal no more.

Speaker 6:

No.

Speaker 3:

No and see like human rights, human rights.

Speaker 2:

What are human?

Speaker 4:

rights. She said no, but I mean, oh my God, I'm not laughing. I mean it's yeah, it's called something different. Yeah, she mean that I I mean like, yeah, he's dead, I'm serious.

Speaker 5:

So we know how no rights are back there.

Speaker 6:

So Actually we did it. No, so the students who are not behaving as expected, to say it nicely, they just stay in the classroom an hour.

Speaker 4:

Well, yeah, that one of the problems. No, and that's one of the problems. I've seen them being discussed, as you know, parents.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, okay, they're trying to figure out like they still do the set things at one, set two, set three.

Speaker 4:

Not to my understanding, because remember, remember all last years were great, all that great, and stuff has changed.

Speaker 2:

No, it could All students, so they could. You don't get A's and B's on. Last year you got a 4C, 4d, okay.

Speaker 6:

So maybe I'm asking the question wrong. There must be a way that they determine some students are more academically inclined than others and they can't be in the same classroom. Yeah, so what happened? Because that hasn't changed. If you say, okay, the school wants to make improvements, then that's fine, the school can make improvements, but there's still certain things that the school has to do and you can't have somebody yeah.

Speaker 2:

You're not telling me all set one, set four. You're not telling me set four. You're not telling me all set one, set four. Yeah, we got to get a. If you know us and listen to us, if someone wants to email our message to the pod, then let us know, because that can't be the case.

Speaker 3:

I can kind of speak to it from what was given to us as parents for additional knowledge. My son just started John Gray, so I'm new to the school. A very different system from when I graduated Get out boy six months.

Speaker 2:

He's going to be running the school. You will have to shut down. My Sorry.

Speaker 3:

What I understand is after I think after year 70, do start looking at grouping the kids together academically. But they're mixing all houses together. So I know when we were in school you stayed with your house, so that is kind of done away with and that is to kind of help supplement this whole grouping of the academic. I don't know who this? I don't want to be like all the smart pats, but you know what I try and say Putting them all together regardless of the house that they're in. That was what was explained to us. It's just not done, okay, so they still do it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's an element of it that's still done, but it's not done right away when they enter into school. So, like at my son's year group now year seven, everybody's kind of mixed, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So it's kind of like they really at risk now, then yeah, in a sense, they teach us at risk anyway, in a sense. What I will say from the school perspective, though, because I think it kind of goes back to our original question that one of the things the principal mentioned that is really causing bullying or fights in school is the social media element, that when they kind of ask the questions or talk to the students or try to figure out how this started. Where does this come from? What's the root of the problem? Nine times out of 10, it is coming from something related to TikTok, snapchat, instagram, whatever the situation is. So they really were pushing to have the parents really heavily be more accountable for the situations that are happening in the school, which I agree with. You know, we're sending them to be taught, not for them to be the parents and the teachers at the same time.

Speaker 3:

So then there was a few parents that were like arguing oh well, you need to ban phones from the school. And he was like let me make it very clear Phones are not allowed in school. They're not allowed in school. They haven't been allowed in school, they're not allowed in school. But he was like and he basically all this to generalize it he's like but as a parent if you tell your child it's okay for them to take it Exactly and as far as we know, they don't have it because they're not taking it out in class or really not abusing it. What would you like us to do when they then turn around and record a fight with the phone that you told them that they could take to school? Because a lot of parents open and say that, well, you know, I need to get a hold of them or they need to get a hold of me.

Speaker 2:

Which is a very valid point in 2023. You should probably have a contact with your child, but at the same time, You're out of school though. You know, there's really a third reason.

Speaker 3:

You're out of school and you're out of school where you have access to what they call student services. All of those teachers have phones. They have all been issued work phones.

Speaker 2:

That's a good point to note too. A lot of people don't know that Each teacher has a phone for the child to use if needed or if the parents need to contact them.

Speaker 3:

The tutorial teacher made it very clear to me that she's like this is not my personal phone, this is my work phone that I'm giving you. She's like I have it on me throughout the day and she has her own little rules of the hours that we use a group chat and stuff like that. But all teachers have it and you know you have your secured officers. You have the various heads of group, like if your child needs to get a hold of you while they're at school, they have the option. So the kind of the excuse of they have to take it to school because I need to contact them or they need to contact me, I think is a bit much. But the principal made it clear a lot of the issues that are causing these fights are not even starting at school within the school environment, social media.

Speaker 3:

And it's not primarily bullying either. I was gonna say that too.

Speaker 2:

That's it, let me bullying.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so he said that was battery and assault.

Speaker 2:

That was a fight, that was a yeah.

Speaker 3:

When they couldn't speak about that because that's an ongoing investigation. So the most they could tell us is it's an ongoing investigation. They cannot further comment. But they did speak a bit about, you know, the student that was assaulted, again to the point that Victor was making that there's a lot of additional trauma that's going to come at that because it's recorded, it's sent around, all these type of things that come at that situation where Yo why you got to keep doing the head of the and bro.

Speaker 3:

Don't get me started. That was excessive. Don't get me started.

Speaker 2:

These kids are angry what the fuck are they angry about.

Speaker 3:

That's all. So they need to start getting to the root of that kind of issue.

Speaker 2:

That's a good point.

Speaker 3:

A parent made a good, valid point as well that John Gray kind of gets a bad rep for a lot of these situations. But they're like these problems also start at the primary school level and I can wholeheartedly agree with that Because I have seen some of these primary school kids fight. I have seen them curse other people out. I have seen I have seen them bully my own son, so I know exactly what they're capable of. And the parent was like you know, you take them from smaller populations and put them all in John Gray and expect the best thing to happen, and then John Gray is being held accountable for something.

Speaker 6:

Let me ask the fairly obvious question. I would think we all went to high school. We all went to high school. We all sat here and said we saw fights before. It is okay, on one hand, to say yes, we should not be supporting violence in school, and I think everybody would agree with that statement, but we also can think of somebody during our time that we saw. I know I can think of one that got beat up that way. Yeah, he kind of deserved it, like.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry.

Speaker 6:

You know like he probably doesn't deserve it. Now he's probably matured as a young man now.

Speaker 2:

Because that, because that, because that awesome helped him.

Speaker 6:

But in school you know when they had to pick him up off that floor and put him in the ambulance, you know, I remember it clear as day People like, yeah, that kind of wrong, but homeboy deserve it still, like you know. So I think like it kind of requires a little bit more, we don't know a little context.

Speaker 6:

A little context is all I'm seeing, because you know there are people in this world that you know you can talk to them and you can reason with them and you can be diplomatic with them, but sometimes you can't hear that message. Don't go go across, and you know. So I don't know what happened in that incident. I saw it on social media. Like everybody else, nobody wants to support violence, but there's multiple sides to every story.

Speaker 2:

Well, I couldn't understand how the parents that were making TikToks and videos afterwards were talking about going down to the school and then using violence on the kids that did violence against their kids.

Speaker 6:

Oh, but come on, that was in our group chat. What are you talking about?

Speaker 4:

No, but that's that too. But everyone needs to learn a little social media etiquette Like you can't just be running to social media with everything, because that's the root of the problem in the first place.

Speaker 2:

Well, adults are making videos threatening violence against teenagers. No, I know, and that's what.

Speaker 4:

I'm saying, like, why are we running to social media with that? Keep it in your drafts or in your notes, like go to your therapist.

Speaker 6:

You see, if that were me. I would leave work and then I would drive down there. I don't know why everybody is so surprised. I would let the security.

Speaker 2:

Open the gate for me first, and then I would run in there and find him. I don't got nothing to do with it?

Speaker 4:

I mean, of course you have those thoughts, but you don't incriminate yourself Like again. I'm not going on social media to say that.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, but with the greatest respect. Not because you won't think you would do. Something means other people won't, and the reason that I say.

Speaker 6:

that is because, when it comes to social media, people take it very loosely and it starts from for example, you hear people say all the time the version you see of me on Twitter is different than the version that you see of me on Instagram or the version that you see of me on Facebook. What they don't tell you is that, no matter what platform you put it on, all of your information is still out there. So, whether you think you're showing a different face because you're on Twitter versus Instagram, you're showing the exact same side of you.

Speaker 4:

You're just telling them where to go.

Speaker 6:

And when you start out with that mentality where people are going oh you know Twitter, you know I'll post a raunchy stuff on Twitter but I wouldn't post it on Instagram. So what does it take for somebody to just switch over? To see your profile on Twitter and what are they going to pretend Like they don't know that aspect about?

Speaker 2:

you, the IG private man.

Speaker 6:

Oh, get out of here. Nothing on the internet is private. I feel you right.

Speaker 2:

I feel bad for Junker because, again, I think Junker is in the middle and between the hard place with it. But this idea and it's called for the parents. I'm not really sure how much parents can do, to be honest. We spoke about the phones, which I think is a great point. You know what I'm saying. I don't know if you're going to be doing a box search and you had to do it with us.

Speaker 2:

You had to. No, no, no, I'm talking about as a parent. As a parent every morning, yo, y'all know y'all children be bad, straight up, listen. But at the same time, I think with the phones is that you don't know how your child is on that phone. Bro, I had a friend of mine call me literally two weeks ago and he was like yo, how do you deal with your teenager girl using the phone? Do you take it away at night? Boba Blah Snapchat's IG's. And I say, yo, my first advice I'm going to give you is don't check the phone. I think he said she's 11 or 12. He said. I said don't check the phone. What do you mean?

Speaker 2:

He checked the phone. I'm going to be a dumb checking this phone.

Speaker 3:

I ain't fucking all up in that shit.

Speaker 2:

You getting your heart broke when you realize who your child is, bro, when you're a real child In the group chat.

Speaker 4:

I can still check the message.

Speaker 2:

In the group chat you find out who your daughter really is. Come on, you're going to be sick to your. You're going to be sick, bro. The language they're using, how they think of you as a parent. You're going to be fucking gutted. Don't check the phone. I'm telling you, don't check the phone, but hold on hold on Vic.

Speaker 6:

That's nothing different from a lot of us when we were younger. Yes, we didn't have the social media to write on it, but everybody here we had a text message, we had a phone.

Speaker 2:

How much carried us in the text message? Hold on, and it was 20 cents a text. And you had MSN Messenger that you could only use after school, for whatever, whatever.

Speaker 6:

But, vic, it still doesn't change your file. Yeah, you had MSN Messenger and stuff like that. The conversations you were having with the friends are different in the conversation you have with your parents, prime example, I would call my parents by their first name around my friends, but I wouldn't call that to my parents to their face.

Speaker 2:

Your chest height? Okay, you know.

Speaker 6:

I don't think that that's changed over the time. People, people are still going to have their own social circle.

Speaker 2:

They cursing, they talking about boys, they talking about girls, they telling you where to get the fucking vapes, the drug, all that they are whiling when they get anywhere on their friends. So I'm just saying, as a parent, you think you're going to be able to police this shit.

Speaker 6:

And you think that you would rather not know. You really think in a situation like that ignorance is bliss, Some things ignorance is bliss.

Speaker 2:

Oh my, you give your child the tools, you give them all the. Let me answer two mothers. Ignorance is bliss.

Speaker 4:

I was just going to say that goes back to the point that we were making today in a group chat. You have to stay vigilant so that you like, when you see a problem, you have to be able to nip it in the bud at the beginning. You can't let the problem persist, persist and then at the end there's a big blowout and then, well, you try to fix it after. You try to be reactive rather than proactive. No, we're forward thinking people, vic, we get in front of the problem.

Speaker 6:

No, we don't.

Speaker 4:

We find the solution. No, you don't. I want to get in front of the problem.

Speaker 2:

I still wish I had access to Go-Wahaii schools.

Speaker 2:

I mean, of course I'm going to go find your kid on the campus and just drop on what he's saying and go by. I say okay boy, yeah, he won't nip in problems in the bud with okay. You know what I'm saying and I'm making jokes, but I'm not saying that you can't be proactive and talk to your kid. I'm not even saying don't check the phone. I would say that more from an ego standpoint as a parent, that you're going to get your bubble burst or whatever.

Speaker 6:

I'll tell you what I saw a parent do. I was locked up in isolation.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I thought you were locked up in nowhere.

Speaker 6:

No, no, no, no, no. I was locked up in isolation and there was a child or A son who was inside and, for whatever reason, the son had a problem. I don't know what the reason is. The woman posted this video online. How, how she going down to the hotel and the police can't stop her big bad wolf all that story. I happen from my room that I can look and see who's coming to the hotel and I watched her. The most polite woman You've ever seen in your entire life. All that aggression that she was showing online.

Speaker 6:

I don't know for the it was all gone the minute the police walked out with his vest and she went. Oh Well, I got work Monday morning, I can't get locked up to thee. So these people on social media, you gotta stop taking them serious like you can't. You can't do or take people seriously just because of what they post on social media.

Speaker 2:

No, I think to some extent you have to. That's why, you know, with the fucking bomb threat or the, we never knew he would like this, yeah, and, and he's had a profile in manifesto for four years online. I mean, um, I'm not, I'm not, definitely not saying don't be involved your child. I'm not saying don't check the phone. I just mean in terms of there's only so much you can do. You really have to give your child the tools, the lessons, open spaces for them to communicate and talk to you, but at the end of the day, they still have to walk out and go and live in these circles and schools, at the jobs, um, and they may be totally different from what you would like them to be. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, and you have to. I think the swing you come to the realization is that, as a parent, you might have more success in how you Um interact and and and get along with your child in the long run.

Speaker 6:

But do you think that is because parents, in their mind, out of love, usually portray their students or their, their children, as Straight from the divine, can do no wrong, has never, ever sinned, has never, ever upset?

Speaker 2:

anyone. I mean, you got killing keys right now they can tell you you're a parent to victor will start with your no. I don't be telling you start your boys like, because I go ahead.

Speaker 4:

Well, from my perspective, like obviously you Hold your son or your child to like high love, so you want the best for them and you see the best for them.

Speaker 4:

So the highest of the high right, you, that's what you want for them. So you kind of project that on them. Of course, um, but you know, as you live life and you get to know them, you get to know your, their personalities and their interests. Then you can kind of Push what it is that they, you know, get involved in and, you know, help them to create good habits and talk with them, create safe environments, you know. So be supportive of those things you know, like that's key.

Speaker 2:

And then, on top of that, keys are is being prepared that if they still will not come to you or they still may come to you and give you only half of a story. You know I'm saying and, and I think that's what people aren't realizing when they say, oh, where the parents lock the parents up, you know I'm saying you, we talk about the same kids that will dress one way and when the ride come, pick them up, take them to kings or whatever it is, they got a fucking duffle bag to switch out and be in the fucking.

Speaker 4:

Glad you brought that up. Well, manage your expectations to. Yeah, they're kids at the end of the day, there, your kids, yeah, but then at the end of the day they're teenagers and you know, teenagers kind of follow a path like they want a little bit of mischief. Too late, you can't say when you're going through puberty. You didn't think about sneaking out or doing some mischief with your best friend or whatever, like extra part of the experience.

Speaker 5:

I never thought of sneaking out.

Speaker 6:

I thought about it, but the consequences were not big they kept me, right, they keep me real quick yeah no, Sorry, go ahead no I was saying, where I went to university in the uk was a predominantly muslim area and so With that, you expect A lot of people to, you know, be of the be of the muslim faith, not, not, not not just in heritage, but in religion as well. And it was a very common thing to see at the university. A young lady will come to the university dressed covered from head to toe a job and everything and all they're waiting for is for that Mercedes to pull off you know where they died a drive off or whatever and then they just go into the restroom and they change and I call it they go. They went from Brownville to Hoville like, just like that.

Speaker 4:

No, but enough. There their respect in their culture, like they're not respected?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, they are.

Speaker 4:

No, they're not their parents don't see them in a specific light, so that's the light they would like to maintain, no problem, I respect that because that a religion that you and if I that's the religion you practice, and if I'm in your space, I respect that. What I'm not in your space, they don't have to do it then that's my prerogative. If I want to change my that's lying and being deceptive. It's not lying, it's doing what I want to do?

Speaker 6:

No, it isn't. No, it isn't, Keisha, to portray yourself in one way to make somebody believe something about you.

Speaker 4:

to end, and not about believing, it's about making them happy. So if that will make you happy to see me like there's no problem, yeah, but not small, not everything that makes you happy is good.

Speaker 6:

Can we accept that? But that's not the issue.

Speaker 4:

That's not the issue here. That's not what we're debating.

Speaker 6:

Oh no, but I'm not talking about teenagers, I'm talking about college about university students.

Speaker 7:

Yeah, but then your parents still love you regardless.

Speaker 1:

That's the point. That's exactly the point. It doesn't matter what you do, you know what I'm saying, like if you're young, like y'all gonna fuck up about certain consequences and stuff like that.

Speaker 7:

You're just trying to enjoy yourself and fit in. It has nothing to do with religion or how you grow up. You want to be themselves, but it can't be around the parents and that's all.

Speaker 2:

But he says. But he says it's not deception, it's not lying.

Speaker 4:

No, it's not, as I could speak from that perspective. What are you?

Speaker 2:

gonna do with your son? What are you gonna do when you send your son to church and he dresses to the nines? You got his bible in hand, you go to church, you drop him off, leave and do say, all right, let's go.

Speaker 4:

I don't say those unrealistic expectations on my son. Like you have to know your children, why would I drop my son off in a button up in he not comfortable in that? For what he's not comfortable and why would I do that?

Speaker 5:

Vic, just use, just use school. They send the kids to school with the shirt, tuck in shoes. Well, you see, as they bust a gate and a car, drive off shirt out, the list is no, oh oh, not my son.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, not my son, because he come home with it. Tuck in and I can see him on the camera. Because he tuck it back in before he get home.

Speaker 6:

Nope, all right guys.

Speaker 2:

Nope.

Speaker 4:

You have to lay the foundation for them. I'm a firm believer in that. It starts at home. Nobody can change my mind. I walk these shoes every day and nobody can change that. He's Sure in rate you set the standard. My son know that when he on the road he's a representation of me and my household.

Speaker 4:

You know, for his very first project. He had a project about his family. He had to put five fox about his family. You know what one of the facts are and my family is clean like I don't play that. Make sure that you present yourself. Perception is reality. What people?

Speaker 4:

see it. No, no, exactly. And what people see, they believe it, it don't matter about will come out of your mouth or whatever. What they see about you, that's what they believe and that's what they zero in on, and that's it. You cannot change somebody mind once. It is me.

Speaker 6:

I 100% agree with you. That is why the way you present yourself actually does matter. So it is not okay, on one hand, to portray yourself as Very, very no that's not like. That is my identity.

Speaker 4:

So you either accept it or you don't accept it. That is my identity. At the end of the day, that's what you don't accept. So that's why it's a problem to you. It's not a problem to me because this is my circle, this is my family. So if I want to keep her happy and wear my traditional wear, I'll do that for my mom, because I love my mom. Where we are going over my clothing.

Speaker 2:

Because it's religion, exactly. So, to keep her happy, I'll wear the proper clothes.

Speaker 4:

I'll wear the proper clothing around her if that all it takes. But you why? Why we bringing up unnecessary things?

Speaker 2:

But suppose you come on a lunch time to go bring you some. Well then what?

Speaker 6:

happens all the time. And then all of a sudden, all of a sudden, is the she on my time. So literally a young lady, she on my time. At that point Her argument was oh well, food spilled on the clothes and everything that. That's it. Yeah, go ahead and get the clothes.

Speaker 6:

Took the clothes on the bag, cleanest clothes. You know why? Because she wore it to school. She folded it up, yeah, and then she continued to like small lies. White lies become bigger lies, so I can't fathom how you can see that somebody who is deliberately being deceitful Is not lying.

Speaker 4:

I'm sorry. Eventually, when she is ready to come out and be who she wants to be, she'll dress. For the time being, that's how she wants to.

Speaker 7:

They totally disagree with everything you just said. All right, we got D and a VELVET. I'm just being honest, bro, like when it comes to, you know, teenagers you guys wear school uniforms to school, right, so there's nothing that changes. But when you're an, a young adult or a child, you're still trying to fit in at some point, and I would rather my kid Did exactly what she says right and feel comfortable than not, and then, instead of forcing her to be someone that she's actually not, why didn't you make her dress the way she wanted to to leave the house?

Speaker 6:

If you want her to feel comfortable, if you want her to feel.

Speaker 7:

You know, self identity.

Speaker 4:

Why didn't make?

Speaker 6:

her, leave her house like that.

Speaker 7:

I wouldn't. I wouldn't do that. I would let my, I would understand hey, if my daughter feel like, hey, if I see her that she's very into a certain style, whatever it is, I'll help her be like hey, listen here, as long as it's not like you know, you know like disrespectful, or you know over the top, or something like that, I would say, all right, cool, you know you can't wear that. However, this is what you could do, but I would never like Stop her from wearing whatever she wants, as long as it's, you know, modest and respectful.

Speaker 2:

But that's, but again, that's who you're liking that's to me. Yeah.

Speaker 6:

Modesty is not going to be yours, so how do you then conflict with that?

Speaker 7:

Bro, I'm not going that far bro.

Speaker 2:

Okay.

Speaker 7:

You know thinking it, bro, like you're taking it way too, like you're taking it to the deep end, bro, because you have kids that go school and and did stuff like that all the time and you're still upstanding citizen. You know you see them on the street and you know they're doing well for themselves. So I don't think you should be that serious. Where you're looking at someone I say, oh, you know what that person is lying he's a fake and I don't think that's what it is.

Speaker 6:

I think the point was made. Is it deceitful or not? And I believe it is.

Speaker 7:

It's deceitful, bro.

Speaker 4:

It just makes it feel like hey that person is just the worst person ever.

Speaker 7:

No.

Speaker 4:

No, no, no, no. It is a negative connotation apart. It is a negative connotation, I agree, I agree.

Speaker 6:

I'm okay with it being a negative connotation, because I believe it is.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, all that all that sounds like to me is betrayal, and you know. You know who betrayed christ. So just call them a Judas, it's the same thing.

Speaker 2:

But now I the thing is right when she made a comment about her son. And this is not. I'm gonna try hard for your son, it's just Slum.

Speaker 5:

The rules and I changed?

Speaker 2:

no, but she. But she mentioned too that he, you know he had a project, or whatever. The one of the first thing he said was yo, my family, don't fuck with it. Yo clean, clean man. So he know the bar has been set, but you can be clean. But what I'm gonna ask, though, is that he also kind of knows that because of His mother's and his family's, right there, foundation, which is what I have, yeah, but but, but what I'm saying to you, what if he don't really want to be clean and he's really just doing it?

Speaker 4:

No, why would he not want to be clean.

Speaker 5:

Why would she not want to?

Speaker 4:

Why would he not want to be actually? No, I'm not gonna ask that, because I'd be chasing him.

Speaker 3:

Men be fucking.

Speaker 5:

No no.

Speaker 3:

No, oh my mother, everybody be like.

Speaker 2:

I never really Men be not sit on a here me clapping no, when, when. I didn't take that when he just said clean what I thought was To the board.

Speaker 6:

We're not talking about your present.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's one thing I'm talking about the Caribbean parent, the house of cleaner coming on Saturday.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, being a parent bringing a clean hold on, and I'm gonna finish, you clean it, but they get up first.

Speaker 2:

And clean and make us clean first, before the cleaner come. I'm talking about that level of ocd. Yeah, that white, not white enough. That's what I, that's what I took when she said clean.

Speaker 3:

So I'm talking about though.

Speaker 2:

I you're on my personal.

Speaker 3:

I thought you're not stand on talking about.

Speaker 2:

I just man tells her that he's a young, he's a teenager, yeah, but, there's gonna be dirty socks on the floor the way you said.

Speaker 3:

It was like on some no, but what I'm saying is the house on some military time, like he's not fucking around with. Oh no, I don't think that's what she meant. I don't think that that's what she meant.

Speaker 2:

She's only she got up, boy. Oh god, if you say tell me five things about your farm in the first, you know the emoji like this.

Speaker 4:

That is my patience, okay. That means he's definitely wild.

Speaker 6:

And I know what I said. Yes, he's definitely wild. Let me tell you something, because you're so junky. I. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 4:

No, no, no, my son know me so well.

Speaker 2:

The first I think the first week of year seven, first answer he put on the paper was no, first week of year seven.

Speaker 4:

They had to call me for a little dispute. No problem, you know before even got on the phone that boy is he beside himself, because he know I have little tolerance for foolishness. Like come to me and come to me, correct, I have no problem with you being the aggressor within reason, but don't come to me with no foolishness. That's how I know it.

Speaker 5:

Don't come to me with no foolishness, I will. You Can't wait to get my logic.

Speaker 4:

Uh-uh, he have a temper yet because he get it from both sides. But he know how to keep that in check, because while out when you need to, but Again with your discernment.

Speaker 6:

All right, not too much on the young king, all right.

Speaker 5:

So I love it. Since we on the school thing, I saw um an article about um what are you drinking, bro, dr Sam.

Speaker 2:

Oh, riesling, riesling, huh, big one thing, huh.

Speaker 5:

Just a little left over, All right so that's Dr Sam.

Speaker 2:

That was my tour teacher back in the day, yeah, but I saw he got in trouble for uh physical altercation with a student.

Speaker 3:

That was in last year.

Speaker 5:

Me. No, I just saw Marlode post it like two days ago.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, he did had a little situation.

Speaker 5:

But it going to where? Because she just literally posted that first time I saw it. I didn't see it last year.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm not sure the size of where it is, but I heard it last year it was last year, I think it was.

Speaker 6:

Is. This is different from the teacher who kicked the child.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's another one too, yeah there's more contact, because I thought that was.

Speaker 5:

I thought that was a new because I was a, because all the comments on it were relatively new as well. I don't know if it was a recycle.

Speaker 2:

I think the Chinese been messing with us, because I've been seeing a lot of memes being recycled, news stories being recycled, I think somebody like kind of just with the button and and they really get a lot of these old stories kind of recycled.

Speaker 6:

No, I think what it is is messing a lot of people up is these Facebook memories. So I had a previous boss who she had posted something during the time we worked together and years later it came up as a Facebook memory.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and she hit.

Speaker 6:

She must have hit like, whether accidentally or on purpose.

Speaker 2:

So it goes back into the time it's through back into rotation.

Speaker 6:

So everyone was starting to see it on their timeline and she had to go and do a post and she was like listen, the post that you guys are referring to that's that's six years old now, you know it came up. It came up as a memory. So I think there probably is a certain degree misinformation is deliberately being peddled, but these social media algorithms definitely have a lot to do with it.

Speaker 2:

I hate them. My IG slow page is disgusting right now.

Speaker 6:

I absolutely hate IG. It the spam is just ridiculous that it reminds me of Twitter. Twitter used to have a whole bunch of spam, thank you. Thank you, elon Musk, for coming clean it up.

Speaker 2:

You watch one big butt girl and that's all in your fucking IG. It's, it's, it's, it's really is Real quick, real quick. Yeah, the teachers another one. You got some content you want to share with us. K, all right, that's top secret.

Speaker 3:

Um no, they just basically kind of alluded to the fact last night, like they were kind of piggybacking off of once something is posted, shared on social media, you know, regardless of whatever the outcome of the investigation is or whatever the situation is like someone's image, reputation is already damaged because you didn't try them in the court of law.

Speaker 6:

You tried them in the court of public opinion.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so, like you could tell that there was a lot of missing information from that particular situation, if you don't know, it was a situation with prospect primary, and I mean even me. I know the teacher and I was quite shocked not to say you know, anything can happen. We don't know. You know somebody could have been off their fucking rockers that day.

Speaker 2:

Somebody's gonna be bad.

Speaker 3:

But before you even got to the bottom of the situation, like we all, found out before the end of the school day that something happened in the morning by social media. You know it wasn't Department of Education that told us.

Speaker 6:

Question. If in that I'm not, I don't know what happened in that incident. Obviously, what was reported.

Speaker 3:

What Teacher, teacher, teacher, child.

Speaker 6:

How would the public feel if they had found out that, minutes before kicking the child, the child slapped the teacher? What would you still can't kick him.

Speaker 2:

You still can't kick him. No, hold on. No, no, because we had this argument last year in the party. I think it was somebody some teacher hit a child.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't some.

Speaker 2:

And I don't know Yo leave, leave all this. I have a little.

Speaker 3:

I know, I don't remember the thing was.

Speaker 5:

I just saying some of the videos I've seen of, not schools here but the schools in general, how the kids be talking to the teachers. I couldn't do it.

Speaker 2:

I agree, I couldn't do it. But the thing is, if the kid, if a, if a teenager physically touches you like that, in those settings you can't, you can't, you can't.

Speaker 6:

What if he come and slap you with a plywood, because I've seen, I've seen a child actually take a piece of paper?

Speaker 2:

No, you may get some muscle memory and some reflex. You know what I mean. You know what I mean, but still, come on, you, you in a position to care. Yeah, hold on now, may, whether, may, whether, junior.

Speaker 6:

I would be like why are you, why are you? I'm gonna hold my feet, why are you gonna play with fruff?

Speaker 2:

Like it's a new build, like no, but I have a hitter's in the class.

Speaker 1:

I try to come up to you. I get hitters in the class.

Speaker 5:

They're gonna say yo if somebody diss me in class? You deal with that. I like that approach.

Speaker 2:

And I go show a little something. I like that approach. I can't rate that.

Speaker 5:

You need that A. You need that A for something. You know what I mean. You get that one person on your team that's gonna play you Squad. You know what I mean? Fuck nice shit. I've had that time.

Speaker 6:

I guess there needs to be the broader conversation that everybody's not meant to be in a position of fear for children. I'm telling you straight up. If your child hit me with a plywood, I don't give a fuck about your child age. I would cover it back like okay, cool.

Speaker 2:

It's fair game.

Speaker 6:

It's fair game. Yo, what are you talking about?

Speaker 3:

Your natural reflex to somebody hitting you is very likely going to be hit back, regardless of the circumstances.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no. Well, the thing is when you work with kids. When you work with kids, though, you need to be in a you're, you're mind-free. My mindset is totally different. It should be. If your, if your first instinct is to hit back, you're in the wrong profession.

Speaker 3:

But if a kid gives me a fuck, like though kids right now in preschools, special needs schools they fucking them teachers up.

Speaker 2:

Right? No, I know somebody right now.

Speaker 3:

I shouldn't laugh that. I know it's true.

Speaker 2:

What's the? It's like a, it's like a private institution. Is autistic kids? No, no, no, it's another one, it's a small one, bro, she told me what the, what the thing was and I'm like, yeah, I can't do that. One Cause, which one? You?

Speaker 3:

talking about.

Speaker 5:

Maybe you're getting bitey things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bro, you gonna bite, you gonna bite back.

Speaker 3:

You do have a genuine understanding for kids in those type of settings, though what I am saying is, if you let's just say the situation with high school if a high school kid come and give you a fuck lick, you are a teacher, yes, and you are in a setting where you could have been teaching for 20 plus years, but if that lick just knock you, sometimes you can't help your reaction in the way it is.

Speaker 5:

I would teach them something.

Speaker 2:

I would have graceful, I would get the context.

Speaker 6:

But I think that's what we were talking about.

Speaker 2:

If you self-defense and push the offer we're talking about on top of them.

Speaker 5:

This for all the teachers out there just get a hit in the back of the class and build our relationships with some more of the disrespect you just say. Oh. Not graduating six years he's just there in the back of the class.

Speaker 6:

There was a US news story where the video went viral on social media. A friend is clearly recording his friend at the door. No, no, no, no, no antagonizing teacher. The mother is at the door telling the child something. The child turns and sees friends recording Bam bam, like six times in a row To the mother. To the mother oh, I would tear not off.

Speaker 1:

It's the mother's child. No, no, no, no, the mother's child.

Speaker 5:

The child's report came out that the child's dead. That wasn't actually a class Child is dead, that was a gang situation. So the girl that slapped the mother was a part of a gang and she couldn't get to the guy she was after or whoever she was after, and she went after his mummy. So that's what happened, that one.

Speaker 6:

We talk about the same video. Yeah, that exact same one, okay. And then they caught her. I need some more to share this with you. And then they caught her after the child. The child later ended up dead.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, they shot her up after you can't get out of the family. But a gang shot her up. Can't believe John Gray for that one.

Speaker 3:

Sorry to wait. He said that I'll let you out of the mummy.

Speaker 6:

No no no, no. I don't know if the mother killed the child.

Speaker 5:

No, no, no. The person went dead. The person went to her house. They went to the parent house and draped her up like hold her by her shirt and box her like three times.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I need some more to share this video with me. I did not. I be minding my business.

Speaker 2:

Yo, these kids got all going in school, bro we're gonna give them a little grace.

Speaker 5:

School can't be that hard bro. School wasn't that hard to me. Yeah, it was. You won't report that. Yeah but that just that side of things.

Speaker 2:

So imagine not 10, 15 years ago now multiplied. Now to what they dealing with today, bro.

Speaker 3:

Social media is the biggest factor in all of this, guys.

Speaker 2:

I think the economy is too, though. I think the stress of my parents.

Speaker 6:

I think of you think the children are so poor that they're fighting people? I just won't be there, I think you'd be upset and angry sometimes.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure. Why can't I have?

Speaker 5:

that. Why can't you send it into school in feelers? And I get them four o'clock in the morning, catch bus and walk. You say something about my kicks? No, we fight in.

Speaker 2:

Yeah but and I might fall my mom and I can't get no, she make $6, like oh, you know what I mean, Like I didn't actually be born. So yeah, I joke aside, Social media plays a part, but I do think also the farming life and the farming plays a part.

Speaker 3:

I agree with you.

Speaker 2:

And I see my dad in. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

They did speak about that too last night.

Speaker 5:

Yo, they had. They were playing Vine in that one.

Speaker 2:

Two for one drink special. You know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, right, right, right here, come check it out. I'm talking about CXE exams. Fuck all the Come, david. These drinks though? Hey, they have my boy, martry, stressing the video man. He got to make a message as a director education. I'm like it's not really his fault, I feel from yeah, they don't between a rock and a hard. It's a holistic problem that everybody needs to be a part of.

Speaker 3:

These children think they're fucking adults. They're having a problem.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't. Well, you know, some people say bring Martin Strapp, bring Martin Strapp.

Speaker 3:

They were up in there preaching about that last night, but I was in primary school, as far as I recall Definitely, I was like the last year group that teachers were allowed to beat the students.

Speaker 6:

I remember Claire's day. My mother used to tell you had to pee, pee at the sign you had to sign my what.

Speaker 3:

And you went to Christian school. You didn't, you guys didn't get beat.

Speaker 6:

My mother used to tell the teachers all the time if he messing up, you can hit him Straight up, you can hit him With no Call me after.

Speaker 2:

I think they hit reset some of them.

Speaker 6:

I think it kind of. I had a principal Y'all remember the principal at CrossFit Primary, Mr Walker. Mr Walker used to have these like three or four wooden rulers that he would tape up.

Speaker 2:

Oh, now he's abuser.

Speaker 6:

That's a piece of what the fuck?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, he would tape it up and they would take a little room, poor Javi. So brainwashed, that is abuse. They were abuser.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, it's not abuser or what doesn't kill you. Make you stronger, you stronger.

Speaker 5:

I only teach in two subjects if I was ever to be a teacher In high school. No, no, no P. No. Pe and technical Specifically woodwork. Like I say, you piss me off and you're not leaving. First you're not leaving a field, you pass and all that You're not leaving. And then all woodwork Don't Pure bricks around the place.

Speaker 6:

I stole in the CrossFit class Question for the parents.

Speaker 5:

We definitely hired them no don't hire me.

Speaker 6:

I'm not hiring you when you guys go to report in session. My girlfriend has a child, so I've been to my first report in session.

Speaker 2:

Oh, congrats man, yeah, yeah, congrats. Congrats my boy. But it's easy Got to be all fake interest in the shit. You know what I mean. Hold on.

Speaker 6:

No, no, Listen. No, I was here's why I was interested. He's like a top student, so it was like 45 minutes in and out. The teacher was like, yeah, man, we doing no problems with him, Keep him moving, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's good, he's good. Why are you keen, yeah?

Speaker 2:

he's good, exactly.

Speaker 6:

So, anyways, we're going through this list of the different classes you got to go to, and she went on to say, oh, we got to go to PE. Like the hell we going to PE, for what are we going?

Speaker 2:

No man, it's a big class. No one what the same. They doing theory and all kind of shit in PE.

Speaker 6:

You know what?

Speaker 2:

I'm learning, victor, I'm telling you.

Speaker 3:

Victor PE is one of the Do y'all go to?

Speaker 6:

When you go to PE, do you go and see the PE teacher?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, I, because it's Miss Foster oh my God, she's first time knowing us. Yeah, in my case I haven't experienced a separation. So I come in from primary where you met with one teacher for every single thing. You just went through the comments on behalf, but when I was in school, PE was one of the classes where kids used to make a lot of fucking trouble Like they would. They got exam, they got exam. That was the only A and good.

Speaker 5:

B they got exam. They got exam On my report, yeah.

Speaker 3:

They used to make a lot of trouble in PE classes.

Speaker 5:

So what you doing for the PE exam.

Speaker 2:

No, but you learn about sports. You learn about theory and muscles and all that kind of shit and you got to regurgitate that back on the exam. I don't know not. Shit you learn around that no.

Speaker 6:

I've never seen a PE class where that happened, until I was in K-Map Prep for A Levels and I had someone in our cohort who specifically picked physical education as an A level subject. Granted, his books were pretty thick. I'm talking primary school, middle school, high school. What are you going? What? Okay, fine, you go to the math teacher and the math teacher says yes, you know he's struggling with equations, you know we got to work with him on this or whatever. Pe Listen, you know he didn't finish running his laps earlier today In my day you could have, you could have opt out from going to PE.

Speaker 4:

Nobody now are we telling you no, pe has no surpass the physical education aspect. It is no physical education and theory, it is something that they study now. They have textbooks now too. That's correct. They can actually pick it.

Speaker 2:

It is a G-set If I would be blood to get to PE and won't go play fucking football and we got to sit on for 30 minutes first to learn about attacking styles and PE.

Speaker 5:

I can do that free subject.

Speaker 6:

That's a free, yeah.

Speaker 2:

It was I went to the IT room, you know, started some money and I had extra PE in school. I never knew I never knew.

Speaker 5:

No, they never had that.

Speaker 2:

They had that one.

Speaker 5:

I never heard of it.

Speaker 2:

We weren't in them sets. That's when I realized.

Speaker 5:

That's when. I realized I would have been serious about how you don't know about that. I had one PE class.

Speaker 3:

No, but I mean, you never used to hear about the guys that had to go because they don't mind coming with dive gear. I see what you're doing Well.

Speaker 2:

We got diving today. No extra Shit I got to see. See you, mom, yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm on, yeah, I'm on, shut up. But, um, jevi, just just to go back a little bit, one of the things that they look at when I guess greed in the greed and system is different now, but attitude to work or attitude to subject is one of the things, so that may be a key component in particular, life is something like PE. It's your attitude to the class or your attitude to the word. Okay, so that's one of the things is like yeah, it needs improvement.

Speaker 6:

That all of them, on a general scale, those who are academically inclined may not be sports inclined, for example. So you usually find that the kids are really smart, not really good with PE.

Speaker 6:

The people who go to PE they could be good with academics, but not all the time. I was never, ever good at PE. I was always chubby, always fat. Why on earth would my parents go to a? Yes, she accepted from the get go. Oh yeah, he's not going to score high in PE. Like you have a goal to use CCI and oh yeah, you know you need seven subjects to come in here. Is PE one of them?

Speaker 2:

No, it is no they're going to be no, come on.

Speaker 5:

It should be because some of them, you know, so that's the Chris.

Speaker 2:

real quick, my my um. I learned my first networking experience in PE MPE from Chris. No, I'm just thinking I'm in this thing. Chris.

Speaker 6:

Chris, chris, oh yeah Moses, his birth certificate in stone.

Speaker 2:

Lazarus, chris, chris.

Speaker 4:

Moses, you right there with him, so I don't know what you were going to vote for.

Speaker 2:

Oh no, I learned networking in PE. That's what I learned. One of my first semesters in PE was Mr Chambers, mr Rogers they were the PE teachers and then one used to sit down and he had the grade book out and it was, grades were coming out and then mine, literally I was, I flew under the radar, I wasn't, I wasn't really talking to them and shit in that semester or whatever. Then mine looked at people and it was like yo, rashad, rashad ringing, all right, and then mine huddled and they would be like A B literally yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so I'm going to get to my name. I say Victor, I'm going to say C See next semester, bro, and healing my number every time. You know what I mean. Oh, they talking about this. Oh, I know about that too. I speak it or not? Next time grade come around, I'm going to sit in the classroom, in the locker room. Oh yeah, I want to get out of here. Pe didn't even have a career.

Speaker 6:

That's how that shit was no, it didn't. It didn't have.

Speaker 5:

I learned to put one in working. It was just keeping. It was just keeping the youths and healthy and guys.

Speaker 6:

I learned from PE, to get your letter in time that you can give to the teacher to say I'm not going to be in this class today. I'm going to be.

Speaker 5:

No, my, my, my thing is how did people not like PE? That was honestly like a free period to just have fun.

Speaker 4:

You don't have to do that. People don't like to be out and sweating and all that Like my sister did not do a lick of PE every time they always had, but it was also three months.

Speaker 2:

So for that three months I don't want to do badminton. That's three months. I don't want to do football the only one that I like to swim in they switched it up.

Speaker 5:

They would like switch it up. So you do like, let's say, you do football for a few weeks, then you do basketball.

Speaker 2:

Bro, we had Coach Gilly yelling at us bro.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I had Gilly.

Speaker 6:

I mean, I had another one. I'm not going to call it a deal, I'm going to love that is he telling you.

Speaker 4:

That was abuse. To tell you if you watched it.

Speaker 5:

See here that you had to be, you had to be fixed. I'm not telling you. They put up your seat. If you do that, again I go, I go run my foot right up in your ass. Yo, you better do it.

Speaker 2:

Maybe not wanted, yet I don't want to put them in my house.

Speaker 5:

They doing it. I tell her that's why I think some bullying is actually good. I tell her I see, no, I call it something else.

Speaker 4:

Bullying, make it so again has a negative connotation and I know standing character.

Speaker 5:

Like I see the building, like there we go, character building. So, like Vick said, I seen this one. I seen coach Gilly jump the fence at a football game during the league because I'm an underfield mess up so I can't.

Speaker 6:

I love that kind of passion. I need that passion.

Speaker 5:

He literally jumped the fence and we can't, we can't feel jumped into Georgetown primary. That close and walk off.

Speaker 2:

I think the problem is now is that we can't yell at these kids, we can't do anything to these kids now, and that's where you're going to fight.

Speaker 6:

No, we are gilly, but gilly would come in periodically.

Speaker 2:

So for the three months and teach us all.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah For football.

Speaker 5:

I honestly really thought about being like a coach and, but I know no, no, no. So for like, especially for like softball.

Speaker 4:

but boy, I like to win.

Speaker 5:

No, I like to win.

Speaker 2:

I like to be competitive, but it's not your child, you can't get on the bench, get better.

Speaker 4:

You can't have that. We need to come up with people's children. I had a fostering winners. I am fostering winners. Well, you guys know that. Everybody know when.

Speaker 5:

Everybody know when good, join us just for fun team. This team is for winning.

Speaker 6:

I went to my fun Good.

Speaker 5:

Join a fun team.

Speaker 2:

I joined mine. I went to school sports day two years ago I think about two years ago and it's just a giant kickball game and they don't keep score. That was the fucking sports day.

Speaker 5:

No, never. First, I need the first, I need the second, I need everything, and don't keep score.

Speaker 6:

So you asked why somebody would not did not enjoy. Yeah, let me answer as somebody who did not enjoy PE. I started wearing glasses when I was in. Oh, you can't tease in middle school, no, no, no. I very early on developed a fear of the ball hitting my face because I was concerned about the price of the glasses. It was not, and why is that? Why is it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, it's not the price. Why are you, as a middle school kid, wearing both price of glasses?

Speaker 6:

Because I have a conscience and I'm not just going to willingly destroy stuff that my parents have to spend more money on.

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying, that's what I'm going back to terms of economy. That was the first.

Speaker 6:

That was the first reason why I didn't like PE. Second reason I didn't like PE is because at the time, as we said here, there was no sort of curriculum. The teachers were very selective. If you were physically fit and active, the teachers worked with you. If you were not, the teachers ignored you. Why would somebody in that position want to go to PE? They don't want to go to PE because they're not being worked with. I had the same problem, not in PE, in Spanish. I had a Spanish teacher. I'll call her name, good friends with her now, but there was two children in the class who were naturally Spanish speakers. When she treated them like they were the cream of the crop and everyone else was dumb. Technically, you have any harm.

Speaker 2:

They were correct, but the point is I didn't like going to.

Speaker 6:

Spanish because she had already decided these are the students I'm going to work with and these are the students who I'm not going to work with. I believe a lot of people who did not enjoy PE. That was why, yeah, you can go out there and run and get sweaty and all that cool. You can burn some energy. But the people who are enjoying it were the people who the teachers were engaging with. They weren't the people jogging in the back. You're a little jealous?

Speaker 5:

one that's all a little hate one.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, the coaches have come to me and said you know let there be no speculation. I absolutely hated PE. Let there be no speculation. Okay, okay, okay. I never hated Spanish.

Speaker 5:

I didn't, I still don't know. I didn't learn a thing. Well, I did learn something in Spanish.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's why Tengo el gato en los pantalones.

Speaker 6:

I thought it was going to be fun to learn Spanish. You know, once you go Spanish, the rest of it vanished, but I never really pick it up.

Speaker 4:

That's a famous line.

Speaker 5:

I tried to download, do a lingo, but I lasted like a day and I was like fuck this, I just use Google translate.

Speaker 2:

Speaking of immigration, oh gosh what I know you're going to bring up that Keisha people's one. She said she's voting. Can we talk billboards?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, no, no, you're going to bring up immigration.

Speaker 2:

What's your boy doing?

Speaker 4:

Keisha, I don't know what you're looking to, oh you're looking to. Yeah, I see the billboard change.

Speaker 2:

So these billboards that probably are illegal and shouldn't be up? He money work, though, oh, he got three years worth.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, he good you know there's no water damage. He probably he got a pressure treated and everything he know they will last till the next election.

Speaker 2:

There's legal month one time.

Speaker 4:

No man, they don't change between now and then.

Speaker 2:

So Keisha's boy. He changed out one of his billboards to something very, very bright, so I bought them to say immigration reform, now big bull letters. But I guess the issue comes is when you say, wait a minute, who are you telling that to you? Are the person that's in power, you have a seat at the table. What is the thought process behind that? And when we start for comment, confirm that it was his billboards. He didn't need to change, and I guess he's trying to move the dialogue in the country forward when it comes to something has to be done with, with, with, with immigration.

Speaker 6:

Saying that something has to be done with immigration is not the same as doing something about immigration. And it doesn't change a fact that, yes, he can write on the billboard and say immigration reform now. It doesn't change a fact that immigration reform is an extremely complex subject and simply writing on a billboard immigration reform is not going to give you immigration reform.

Speaker 4:

That's my opinion on it, but it sparks the conversation, exactly what we're doing right now.

Speaker 6:

The conversation been sparked. The conversation been going off of years, so let's get change in.

Speaker 4:

So see me talking about it again. So now it's back in your faces and we can talk about it.

Speaker 6:

get it done, yeah, except except, except what happens when in three weeks time it's no longer a pressing matter because the media has gone on to another story. Then you, talking about it, tell me. So what was the sign up before immigration reform? Most people can't even remember.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it was about litter, Get that boy. Before that, it was a question about the lottery and it's hurricane.

Speaker 2:

Hurricane preparedness. But as a young new voter, she's paying attention and that's the whole. That's the whole premise of the show. I mean the link up. You need to get people paying attention. So that's good. She's right, she's going to be shocked, btws.

Speaker 5:

Not 225, though some other time.

Speaker 2:

You got to learn Spanish though.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah, to compete with them, I need to learn a lot.

Speaker 2:

Dali and mommy Dali. So immigration reform, yeah, to the point of. I think it's a bit disingenuous sometimes because there's if you, if you are paying attention to the news and what's going on with government, they're already in the background working on reports for immigration with some recommendations. I think Chris on this was a part of that too, before he, before he, moved over back to the opposition, so these things are kind of in the background being worked on. Is the concern, then, that if this billboard is up, it would appear that once a reform does come, or change comes about, it now looks as if this billboard instigated it and was the catalyst to drive that forward. And then reality immigration reform is something that is constantly being talked about and you're always a bit of sort of minor tweaks behind the scenes that are taking place.

Speaker 6:

I don't know if that's going to necessarily be the case. I actually didn't think about it like that until you said it, because immigration reform has already been discussed for so many years. I think a lot of people rightfully looked at who put up the billboard, and the person who put up the billboard has a certain reputation within the media and I think that that's where it's going to live and die. I don't know if he's going to get the credit for immigration reform. The credit for something will always be given to the minister who's charged with it, and in this case it's minister Seymour.

Speaker 6:

His face is the one all over the government press when this came out, appearing on shows and stuff like that. I think the bigger conversation that came from it was people are saying, like you said earlier, you are sitting at the table, are you saying this to the wrong person? And you're right. The minister who put it up did say that he wants to spark the conversation, and people then rightfully said we've been having this conversation, what are you doing about it? And I think I don't know if that's what he wanted to achieve, but I think that's what he got. So thank you so much for joining me.

Speaker 2:

I'm sure it's like 20-25. Yeah, as a leader too, I think I would be stressed, bro, trying to keep everybody together and combat these actions because they give off a certain level of uncertainty, I'm assuming. When a member of a cabinet says X and it's like, well, what does this not mean? Is there a ripple on the other side? Is there some kind of contention? And even you mentioned Minisasee Moore, minisasee Moore's comments right now two E's in the papers saying this road is being held up.

Speaker 2:

What's going on with my East to West arterial going to Lookout Gardens? Did they pass the motion to remove the EIA for that sexual sexual? I know it was being discussed. It was a motion that was brought forward, but I'm not sure if it's passed or not. I think it was, yeah, 17 members passed it. Yeah, they said let's do it with the EIA. So now it's like all right, wait a minute. There's been no work to date on that. What's going on with that? But again, he's a minister sitting in cabinet. He should be aware Once he does make these comments now, does that mean there's something going on internally that the public is not going to be aware of as to why this is not taking place? Is there some sort of contention?

Speaker 6:

Well, there's always contention in government, no matter who's in government. That's one of the points that a lot of people have made specifically to this government is like oh, there seems to be, you know, disarray. There seems to be, you know, people not agreeing with each other. I want people to just think back to the last two PPM administrations. All of the members of that were full, for the most part full fledged members of the PPM, and those exact same rumors were also going around. Oh, how they were. They were two meetings away from completely splitting up. You know, I think it just boils down to you know, it's passing comments and that's all it is, to me at least.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, so it's just nothing to take serious to me.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, all right, that's fair, that's fair, oh D, come to the mic D. Bring to the mic D, take the oath. Do you solemnly swear to tell the truth? The whole shoot? Go ahead, come on. Oh gosh, he has on a big white tee. Really, your vibes on. You made a comment you told me a story about. I want you to start real quick.

Speaker 5:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 4:

What's that? Look how he dropped to the mic.

Speaker 2:

You're the thought to be brought in.

Speaker 7:

Oh yeah, yeah, I was a Monday or so, and it was like after nine, almost 10. And he was like these two little kids one were about maybe five, it was about five, and the other one was about six, and they were attempting to do their homework. Right, well, they're parents, you know, their mom is still working like that, oh my God, and I just, I just felt so bad for them and I'm just like yo, like, in regards to, like you know, in regards to what circumstances they're going through, I'm just like I wish the kids like turn out really well. You know, I'm saying in the future, because look what they have to be going through at this time of night. My daughter is already at bed almost three hours you know, already right and these kids are still here almost 10 o'clock.

Speaker 7:

They're attempting to do homework because their mom just have to go out and make a living Right. They don't really sit in back and saying, hey, government, take care of me. Right, I'm over here working and it's kind of sad to see that.

Speaker 2:

And then likely up earlier as hell in the morning to catch the bus or to be transported to schools.

Speaker 2:

Glad you brought up the buses and not getting any, not not getting any proper rest. But I really welcome to the buses month, but it's a good reminder that these stories are are are happening in K-1., when we keep hearing about the surpluses and we see someone so celebrating these new buildings or these wins and these new cars. Are this, you know, these, just these, what we people with demons success stories. It's kind of hard to take those in as successes when we have we have these stories behind the scenes.

Speaker 7:

People are struggling.

Speaker 6:

People are struggling. People are struggling and it hurts to see, but every time you hear someone say the country has this surplus, they make it seem as if this is just money sitting down that can be used, that is not being used, and I think people don't realize that the government is legally required to have a surplus. Or else the UK government takes full control of everything we do, and so somebody might look at the government and say, well, why do they have all this money and not spending on the people? And they don't realize they spend it on the people and they no longer have a surplus. The governor going to be like yo, I run this now, and so you really have to weigh it off. It's not just a matter that the government has a surplus, and this goes across not just packed but PPR as well.

Speaker 7:

The principles of the average person is not thinking about none of that.

Speaker 6:

But that's the point of having these conversations.

Speaker 7:

They don't trust me and even that they really.

Speaker 4:

I would just say we do not. I'm just being honest. I would just say we do not.

Speaker 7:

The average person is not thinking about. Like you know, this is something that you and I would think about, but don't know it, don't care about the UK.

Speaker 2:

I didn't care, I didn't care this school financial responsibility or the FFR, or whatever it's called.

Speaker 7:

They're not thinking about it, they just want to know, like hey, listen.

Speaker 2:

I try and pay CC.

Speaker 7:

I'm gonna benefit in me right now, you know, if I'm not going to get, you know, 1500 bucks. Some people, that's all they care about is hey, you know what it's all about. The next dollar, right?

Speaker 6:

You're on the mic and I got this all the time and I don't hear a deeper on it too much. I love it.

Speaker 2:

That's a great point, oh, Jeffy. Um, you know, from that other aspect, last week after the pod we had a big two hour talk, which I wish was fucking recorded, where Keisha went to telling me it was just yelling at me cussing up the whole fucking complex.

Speaker 4:

That's right, cause I'm passionate about what.

Speaker 5:

I speak about Take your passion away.

Speaker 4:

Well at least you're still living within your complex Relax.

Speaker 2:

No, it was good talking, but it was, it was, it was back to that. I think it was this, this, this, this thought that people have sometimes is like why isn't government doing X? And we don't appreciate sometimes that there's a lot of different factors behind that as to why they can't do X. So you talk about the FFR, for example, you know, having this surplus or um. I think right now the premier is in the in the media right now talking about going back to the UK to ask for more, you know, a change in the law or changing leniency as to their terms of the FFR so they can spend more on climate protection and climate climate um resiliency type um items, because the money that it takes to spend on that they wouldn't, we wouldn't be allowed to because the ratios would be off but, but, but.

Speaker 2:

But to Keisha's point of the argument last week or to Debra's point now, is we ain't trying to hear? That, bro, if we, if we need to.

Speaker 2:

If we know it's solar panels for the building, just get it done. You said you got some surplus. We don't want to hear that if you spend this much on the solar panels it will take our ratios out of whack and then we would be, to Javi's point, out of out of um favor with our, with our, with our uh deal that we have with the UK. So it's just a lot of these things that people aren't necessarily aware of when it comes to government and what government can do.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we tie it sometimes. How come? Once, when I said I don't really give a fuck about what the government does, because they don't really do much Me, you told me no, you should know because they're going to help.

Speaker 2:

And then now you're just saying you call the government all the time. You only tell your stories on air cause I'll tell them right now at a point, yeah, but now at the end, to, to, to be fair, at the end of the day too, we just want people to have these conversations and think about things. You know, we're not necessarily trying to be the end of be all for you. We're not saying X is right, why is wrong? Um, it's on you to kind of get a little bit of the information and then to you to go do your own research, do your goals and come to a conclusion on your own when it comes to certain things that you know the government is doing or society is doing. Relationship, because we talk about all kinds of shit. So relationships, sports, politics, whatever it is.

Speaker 5:

So why? Why can't you just do? Why can't you just do whatever I want to, not care about the government, and if they got something for me, then they got something for me. If they don't like it don't like, to me it doesn't really matter. All right, mr Hurley, what the what the government. No but?

Speaker 2:

but we need people like you to play your part. At what part that is? You have a role, I mean, even if it's something as simple as fucking paying your fines and your and your and your, your duty, your taxes, your, your fees for your business. I have to do all that stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But you, but you'd be surprised when people don't don't do that. They feel as if government is meddling or white white, white white, whatever 100 models. But it goes to the part. It goes to you having a child in five, 10 years and that child no benefited from a system of the education system, or even just you driving the fucking roads. I still believe that we should be paying for some things up front and came on as citizens. So I think once you have an idea where your money is going, you you're more vested, well, we need to pay something for them.

Speaker 5:

Hurry up this fucking road right now. See, all right, we need, we need, we need to give them something, Would you?

Speaker 2:

would you pay a total?

Speaker 5:

No, no, just pass it over to that, coleman. We get now sorted by next week, but, but, but.

Speaker 2:

but you know, the thing with NRA is one of the things that he said when he first created the NRA, the National Rules Authority, was that it was a possibility to have tools. These would you would you pay 25 cents every time you rolled in a bite box 25?

Speaker 5:

cents for what? But what? What 25 cents?

Speaker 2:

No, but no, but to help, to help pay for it and to maintain it. No, to give you to give you the nicest likes to give you new painting on the markers.

Speaker 4:

That what you worried about. The road. Sometimes the like you want me to go in. That what you worried about. You know how much gravel, you know how much the road costs. I don't care, you pay, you pay for it. I can't live on the road. She want to drive. She want to drive on big stone.

Speaker 2:

But Kisa, you don't want to get. Get on the road to get get past traffic.

Speaker 4:

No, that way they created remote working and all them things.

Speaker 5:

They sent her on the new road right there, so by cricket field, the one that not paved yet, unless he how far how far, and they fuck up her tires and her car monster by the time you get home and you wake up next morning, tell yourself Well, see that we're work from home and not work from home.

Speaker 2:

I don't have to leave the comforts of my home. Hey, you know, hey you know, nah, we good, we crazy, all right, it took an AK47 off the streets, y'all know. Like a couple of years ago, when I was on.

Speaker 5:

When it came on. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we had a tour of the police station one time, a part of a group, and they had the photos of the tools that were being used and came on. It's like 15 years ago. I was fucking. I was shocked, bro, so I said a picture of the AK47. I'm like yo. We got these in the, the AK.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, but then I'm on the new.

Speaker 6:

You know they're not using it like that, oh okay, well, I don't want to find out, yeah, cause you know here, nice, these are ones that they took away from the tree runners.

Speaker 2:

Oh, this one, I think they got out of the house like two weeks ago. Yeah, the runners.

Speaker 4:

But what kind of crime going on so that they need AK47?

Speaker 2:

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6:

Give me a little nine, a little revolver? No, I think you guys are thinking into it too deep, do you? If you're getting an illegal gun, you just want an illegal gun, and if the boat come in with drugs and guns, you think they stand up there going. Yo give me the nine minutes.

Speaker 5:

Give me five point of we're together.

Speaker 6:

Just like you got a gun. Whatever the gun is, give it to me. You don't see the course. God come in.

Speaker 5:

Just try to go to your water. No, I don't want to. I want to.

Speaker 6:

We have more books that they go into.

Speaker 2:

He told the book this is like page 67. Tell me what page you want.

Speaker 4:

It's like a book Well it's like ordering a car, right, you have to know what it is you're buying.

Speaker 6:

But they didn't order the guns. They ordered the drugs. The guns came with it.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I got it.

Speaker 5:

I said you just take what you get Beggars nachos.

Speaker 6:

I grew up in a household with a Jamaican parent. It called Brata Brata Extra, all right.

Speaker 2:

I guess I came from it from America's standpoint, where certain guns give you certain qualifications. You get caught with an accent yeah. You got to sum your auto with the oh shit.

Speaker 4:

Are we that stringent?

Speaker 2:

That's my white coat. He's a big listener to the show. We are very, very, very strict. The bumps, bumps, bumps on it.

Speaker 6:

People don't realize that gun laws only affect legal abiding gun owners. Gun laws don't affect people who are going to get guns illegally. They don't care about your gun laws. So every time you strengthen gun laws, it only affects the people who are law abiding gun owners.

Speaker 4:

Oh, but then there has to be something for us who are not licensed but get caught For not licensed no One licensed for your own.

Speaker 2:

Go be licensed and pay your taxes, pay your dues, hmm.

Speaker 4:

I am not pro-guns, so it doesn't matter. No guns.

Speaker 2:

You're pro-nuthin' Opposite to say I am pro-choice. Shout out to the parliament. The parliament now has a new IG page. They're trying to do what Kayla suggested, which is bringing the information to people in a digestible manner.

Speaker 4:

Yes, they've been very active on the social media platform. I absolutely love it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so, uh, I won't say Catholic because I know where it is Catholic, but I guess you have to do the whole proper honourable speaker of the house, honourable, what's the name of the page? Let me go check it out, parliamentky.

Speaker 5:

On IG. Oh, parliamentky Seeing it not following they only have four posts. What do you mean? They doing good?

Speaker 4:

They just started. They just started fighting. Okay, give them a blight.

Speaker 5:

You know it's on the media people. I give them a blight. Give them a blight. My bad, my bad, my bad. Calm down.

Speaker 4:

He went in.

Speaker 2:

Opposition is bringing emotion to bring pepper spray.

Speaker 6:

Yep on Thursday yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, on Thursday. Yo, let's go with that. Actually, so the CIG TV channel parliamentky as well. Parliament's now reopened. They have a lot of bills, questions, to get through. You can always watch on demand. Basically just go back and pull it up. This week they're doing a lot of things. Opposition has about eight or nine motions that they're going to bring forward. One is the pepper spray motion. Y'all going to carry pepper spray if we do. Yep Wait, wait, wait wait wait, javi, why are you going to carry it for her?

Speaker 6:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Why.

Speaker 4:

Bro? Why is this agenda? Why is this agenda? Why is this agenda? Mon or woman should be able to protect themselves. I'm getting to that point.

Speaker 2:

It is seen as a woman's thing. That's why I'm going to get there. Let me lie, keisha.

Speaker 4:

I never know. Defense was for one specific ender I would carry any weapon I'm legally allowed to carry.

Speaker 6:

So if I'm legally allowed to carry a gun, I will carry a gun. If I'm allowed to carry pepper spray, I'll carry the pepper spray. That's simply what is available. So, yeah, you can look at it in one way and say, oh well, the pepper sprays are usually for women. But you have to think about access. What do people actually have access to? And right now, us sitting down in this room short of somebody coming in there and we decided we're going to gang them up for breaking into this place. There's nothing really to defend yourself from them with.

Speaker 4:

And we still don't get charged.

Speaker 5:

You're a churro, you're a churro. You're a churro Churro, ready for that, sacrifice him. You just run through the box.

Speaker 2:

Ooh, pretty dog, this poor dog. Okay yeah, Keisha says she don't do guns, so she'll do pepper spray. Um, this motion might fail for sure.

Speaker 4:

Take all of that negative energy under the universe, the pepper spray motion.

Speaker 6:

Well, the pepper spray that already came in 2000 and it's come before 11 or we are in different times.

Speaker 2:

Well, the thing is um the security council. I think they're they're concerned that people would also remember you got pepper spray. The crew was getting up at the same time.

Speaker 5:

People won't use off of fun.

Speaker 2:

They'll buck you at the ATM and guys see what you up and now you going in.

Speaker 5:

So they're, they're, they're pros and cons to the course Girls might use off of fun when you say hi to them. That's, that's my ugly girl.

Speaker 6:

That's my concern with it. I felt threatened. You have to have a reasonable, in my opinion, you have to have a reasonable degree of threat to to use it, or me a drink, or you should, you should be, um, you know pros and pros, but then you have consequences that are put in place for something like that, then I agree Like I feel like you're gonna have some idiots that just fucking spraying up for no reason People going just go into venues and just spray it just to see, legalize it, and then you

Speaker 3:

get super 20. I have pepper spray before I have pepper spray before Send the boys there, by the way.

Speaker 5:

Well, don't be confessing to crimes.

Speaker 3:

Kayla. Hello, I don't have that anymore she clean on one. I don't have it anymore. What are you going to do? Come find a little pink bottle. It was confiscated.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you already got hit, no.

Speaker 3:

No, it was confiscated at the airport and then I took it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so you be like I took it real quick, Real quick. The aliens have come again.

Speaker 3:

The cake, yeah, the little cake.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, they come in at Sanborn that was October. So come check it out.

Speaker 2:

Um Mexican, so I don't know if you guys saw the video.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's it, bro. That shit didn't look real. I could go out serious, create that right now.

Speaker 2:

I'm not doing it with a cake actually, but the BBC's picked it up and so that it was legit.

Speaker 6:

They tell us what they want Through it.

Speaker 5:

But once, once certain news outlets post it, they'll be like okay, the people going bite on this foolishness, so let's give them anything to test them. I do not believe a fucking alien looks like. I am sorry.

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure if you guys are going to believe it, but you said they'll be here October.

Speaker 5:

What 28?

Speaker 2:

at the sunbar? Yeah, at the sunbar. What's the name of the haunting? The haunting.

Speaker 5:

All right, you know they come in. You know they come in for that.

Speaker 2:

Get them an autograph from the alien.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, he might see a few out there.

Speaker 2:

So that's the Chris. I know Chris is excited about that shit. Aliens the aliens are chilling. Two of my suit.

Speaker 5:

He's a suit pillow Like he was just a thousand years old. People don't have pillows and sheets, and you know so. I never believe that. They don't have to fly over my yard. They'll have like cross right at first.

Speaker 2:

You are it one right, you're not sure.

Speaker 3:

What are hesitation about?

Speaker 2:

Oh no, I see Google alone. Google doing your block. People dirty one.

Speaker 5:

Wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

That was a poor Google. Came out that Google has been paying blocking employees less money Over time. All the bonuses salaries doesn't equate to their counterparts Same jobs.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that doesn't, that doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 2:

So we don't bind Google or you don't stop using.

Speaker 5:

No, because then what we're going to use Yahoo, yeah, never.

Speaker 4:

I forgot about that, see.

Speaker 2:

I came on to open the Singapore office. You want Singapore Because all the money is all the businesses.

Speaker 5:

They want. They want hang out in the airport, best one in the world.

Speaker 2:

I've only been working on court and parliament, that's. That's one of the things.

Speaker 6:

I focus on right now, so you're not doing the. What's happening, you know, doing a was it beef?

Speaker 2:

No chicken to play? No, no, I'm both give me story. No, no, I'm not doing him sorry this year.

Speaker 3:

You slept.

Speaker 6:

This is taking a break. Leave him alone. Yeah, this year I'm not involved in a lot of productions came, only has a certain number of people to be doing, Bro and you want to.

Speaker 2:

you can stop. No, we're talking. Working him like a yeah.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, that's how we hold the people about MRCU. I don't believe those people should get lunch break and anytime those trucks are not driving and spraying. You're right, I have a problem.

Speaker 2:

It's like call HR.

Speaker 5:

Wasn't there like a week that they wasn't on the road like the planes and my mic that would have?

Speaker 2:

that was the other I was involved with that it was more in the week I was going to say that was the plane.

Speaker 3:

I believe whoever work at MRCU should be able to cut the line at the hospital.

Speaker 6:

That's how important it is the plane, the planes with, the plane with down yeah.

Speaker 5:

That was terrible.

Speaker 2:

The plane has to get serviced once a year and I think the block up. I think I tweeted that.

Speaker 5:

They the most, they probably the most important people in K-man right now, absolutely, if that stopped working and whoever fixed that plane. But you know, that's our friend. Yeah. So if that ever stopped working, we in for some serious problems.

Speaker 2:

But like even I, when you think of people who probably wouldn't see the big picture If you say we don't give MRCU $10 million For a new building.

Speaker 5:

My problem People might be on some. No, no, no, I would be upset. What are you getting them a building for? Get them planes, get them more planes. Get them more shit, and we don't need no admins.

Speaker 4:

Literally all we need are lab assistants and airplane technicians.

Speaker 5:

What do you call? Yeah, and whoever flying the plane.

Speaker 4:

Oh sorry, pilots Right? No, no, I think we need them.

Speaker 5:

You need the technicians to. You need the technicians to, but you need.

Speaker 4:

We don't need no admin, just somewhat. This is the schedule.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we don't need call number, just make sure you fly over the yard On your schedule time. Yeah, but somebody got answered phone and the queries no, but we don't know what to answer the phone. Just have a set time and just fly over every, every time.

Speaker 3:

We need the youth of Cayman to understand their employment opportunities within airplane mechanics. There's not enough Caymanians in that field.

Speaker 6:

I just want them from MRCU to MREU.

Speaker 5:

No, they want study Egyptian studies in England.

Speaker 3:

Who the fuck wants that?

Speaker 5:

I know, I know some of those study Egyptian studies.

Speaker 3:

What do they intend to like do with that?

Speaker 5:

Clearly nothing on island.

Speaker 3:

Just sad. What I mean some is, some people do. Do know, though, that the whatever they're studying, there's no career here, in the intent to go elsewhere. Come back here. I just wondered what you would do with that type of.

Speaker 5:

There's a lot of. There's a lot of degrees that people get maybe archaeology.

Speaker 2:

No, they'll end up in government working doing something. One of my past times right now is looking at LinkedIn. Looking at LinkedIn and seeing what position a person has and seeing what they studied. It's the funniest thing in the world.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's been an each.

Speaker 2:

Are you, Bruh? I'm like how did you?

Speaker 6:

How you went from here to here. Somebody contacted me on LinkedIn and I didn't realize. I thought it was a scam, and then I realized it was a real person. Like contacting me through LinkedIn.

Speaker 3:

About a job.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I didn't take it serious, and good thing I didn't, but I am sorry. I'm one of the things like. I have a profile because they say in the business world you need one. Please do not contact me on LinkedIn.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know, I absolutely love LinkedIn. I don't. I'm not a huge fan, I love LinkedIn.

Speaker 4:

Again, social media etiquette.

Speaker 2:

I'm so thrilled to announce that I've obtained the certificate level 17.

Speaker 5:

So LinkedIn, create, it's up for you. One.

Speaker 2:

It was such a I knew you just got a promotion. I didn't realize it was going to start on LinkedIn. I was like, where would you see? Everybody's the same word for I'm so excited to announce I get the fuck Egyptian studies and you fucking account Real quick. Anything else for we got here, they give me the look.

Speaker 3:

I tired. I apologize if I sound tired tonight.

Speaker 2:

I want to see this new far to the movement has been discussed from, but they are not. I don't know what you're talking about you Google right now. It's a book, I believe it is. It's talking about filming a new film. You all right.

Speaker 5:

I just went pick up my UK passport today so I wanted to shout out Connelly Consulting, yeah, they helped me big time. We're getting my UK passport.

Speaker 2:

Foreign coming foreign.

Speaker 3:

She does all of my past.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, she did. She did three of mine. She did the US came on Connelly Consulting.

Speaker 2:

She's on me in the toys today, my kid in stress.

Speaker 6:

I was having laughing at me.

Speaker 2:

This is why it coming out of them. So shout out to her. She's smart.

Speaker 6:

You think my child stress me out?

Speaker 2:

Nah, yeah, I equal Real quick, real quick. That football article had those the winless streak. But it's true though K-Mon Islands continues.

Speaker 4:

They root for that. How you expect me to be patriotic now when you talking about winless streak. They don't have no support. That is the number one issue.

Speaker 5:

No, no, it's not. They're not support. We could get 60,000 people in the stands. We still get B-File of, so which one works Getting beaten in front of 60,000 or getting beaten in front of 200?

Speaker 6:

I think yeah, I can get it from a writing perspective. It's a great.

Speaker 2:

From the business side, I understand it Last week, sorry, I was.

Speaker 4:

People are exhausted. Support local, support our boys. I wish the game wasn't.

Speaker 2:

Your son going to come up and play but football is what we're talking about, See.

Speaker 4:

we can't encourage him to foster this behavior.

Speaker 5:

Chris told me to put my kid in swimming, so why are we? Investing all this money in football, then we're not. Well then, stop the football tournaments, then we can be cut in. You're crying, you laughing. No, I laugh because of how you said it, but like no, but then what's the aim of it?

Speaker 4:

Like, all right, they go and kick around the ball or whatever but then they're not making a life off of it.

Speaker 5:

They should know that it's involved.

Speaker 4:

It's just for fun that you play ball in the game. It's just for fun to see.

Speaker 5:

It's just for the love of the game.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to say that football is this, but there is a thought process with extracurricular sports, is what not? Is that we rather them be doing this than to be free time and do it on those?

Speaker 4:

Well, can we invest in something that will make them successful, ie swimming, fishing. What else are we successful at, guys?

Speaker 6:

Because I advocate Turtling.

Speaker 4:

Well then, yeah, let's put our investments in things that will affect the team. Yeah, in the trap world.

Speaker 6:

Exactly. So why are we not investing in those? I'm only on who we're taking the money away from football and everything.

Speaker 2:

It's not really all the money that football gives us.

Speaker 6:

I don't think it's about the value of the money, Victor. There are organizations and groups.

Speaker 2:

He's pointing his hands at me like.

Speaker 6:

In the Cayman Islands that get money every single year without at all showing any return on investment. They just get it. Then, on the other hand, there are cultural programs and activities that are begging for money, but in order to get the money, they have to show their return on investment before they get it. And I'm sorry, I'm going to say it Football and the pageants. They never, ever, have to prove anything in order to get the money.

Speaker 5:

They just get it. Who the header sports is. Juju. That's it, that's all.

Speaker 7:

That's all. At least people still get scholarships and go. I have friends and coworkers that I've worked with and they played football. They came and announced and then also got scholarships, so they have a degree, so they got something out of it. So it's not like you can say that, hey, listen, just throw it away to the curb because you're not seeing big superstars and stuff like that. But it's still a way for people to change their lives and send them to college and they still come back.

Speaker 4:

Who you know?

Speaker 5:

No, but it's not came per se that to do it, it's the parents then per se would expose their kids to certain environments or take them away to camps and stuff like that. So they'll get scholarships that way. But just plain for came on and plain in the league. Dying going to get you nowhere.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, but you got to foster it here. Is it that I have to go away to? Yeah, you have to foster it here.

Speaker 6:

I may, I will say I probably did misspeak when I say take it away in this. You misspoke?

Speaker 6:

Yeah, all the time. Listen. I genuinely think that that there needs to be a criteria that every organization who's receiving government money has to meet. You have to meet it because they're organizations that are literally begging for them. People ask all the time well, why aren't there more cultural programs? They're not more cultural programs because cultural programs require way more money than the government is willing to invest. They're not asking you. You know how much money you want. The other day, all the sports football, swimming all of them got upgraded in the amount of money they received from the government. The only one I supported was swimming. We're getting a clear return on investment from swimming. Every time we pay for a K-Mania to become a swimmer, we get closer.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no. No See, that was the argument we accused you of. You can look at it and say swimming is getting us a return because of the medals or because of the promotion that we're getting from them, winning the football programs that are keeping hundreds of little kids active throughout the week. Totally agree, that is what we're paying for. We're not paying for renaissance and messies, but we're keeping those young kids active three days a week, from practices games on Saturdays, and it's building their morale, building their fitness, building their fitness. It's indirect, I would say results or intangible type of rewards that we're getting when we donate $100,000 to CFA for example.

Speaker 6:

So then why can't that same mentality be used towards culture programs to see, well, there is some intangible benefit that people get. That doesn't happen, and so sometimes people hear about it.

Speaker 2:

But is that a thing of numbers? When we look at, say, for example, a CUC primary school program, was what? Eight, ten primary schools, hundreds of little boys and girls playing football. When you talk about a cultural program, now wanting to do what exactly put on the play, you know, having an exhibit, is it a situation where the ratio of people to impact is just probably not there. I thought why they don't get the same amount of funding.

Speaker 6:

Could it be that because the cultural foundation or other organizations are not receiving that extra funding that people are not finding about those programs to get involved because they want to be in it? Yeah, it could be that. You know there is a number discrepancy, that there are more people who are interested in playing football than getting involved in a cultural program.

Speaker 2:

The reach is as large as what I'm saying by certain sports or activities. For example, if I'm going to donate money to someone playing pickleball, you know that's four people max.

Speaker 6:

that are probably being a thing Would you prefer to give me the same money that you're giving to the winless streak and I put on a play, or continue giving it to the winless streak?

Speaker 2:

I think that was my argument, that as a government we have to give to both. It's no different from a politician running for government right now and he goes see I want to say the people names, but this certain family that has a business and this certain family has a business. Those two different families go and give the scene to each politician. It's more of a spreading out the pie and making sure everybody has. But I agree, I come from the ministry, you know, I come from the ministry with the culture and all that kind of shit. So yeah, there's always more that can be done in terms of pushing the arcs.

Speaker 6:

People need to accept that. Even I have to accept it, and this is one of the things that it makes it difficult to advocate for cultural programs. You're never, ever going to get the return on investment, because what the return on investment looks for culture is something that you see 15 years down the line versus two years down the line.

Speaker 5:

And I don't think people see that. You know what you know. We're ruin culture and getting money. Pirate's week one Government again on my money.

Speaker 2:

How pirate's get a little short one. Let's re-build it.

Speaker 5:

Bro, pirate's week is. It's supposed to be one of the, if not the biggest, supposed to be bigger than Carnival, realistically. And every year it's just been getting worse and worse and worse. They tried a little something, I think, last year, which seemed to have given it a bit more life and whatnot, but I just don't think they've figured out the formula yet for Pirate's week and we've seen it like from time I was a little kid going out to Pirate's week. It's completely different.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'm a little bit older. Everything's just a bit different. I could be wrong here, but what do you think the original aim or goal for Pirate's week is? Money?

Speaker 6:

Tourism.

Speaker 2:

It was tourism. It was to bring his tourist here during the slow season.

Speaker 6:

Thank you, ben to Nebanks.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I don't know how much people really align with the vision of Pirate's week anymore as to maybe you have. That's why you have some people who don't celebrate, some people don't participate. You know also, you've done it so many years now. It's like oh, we do the same, I can get so. Before, for example, with the heavy, with the foods, it felt as if at one point not everybody was doing cook food like that and that you can go get that food from East End that one time a year. Or if you had a granny, for example. So I was the kitchener, I was taking care of her, but as if now is it you can get that heavy food because I would take basically every dime function every week. There's a restaurant doing it Sundays, I do came on style B for whatever it is. So I think also to.

Speaker 2:

Pirate's week is dealing with competition. Is it the word competition? Sorry, it's not scarce anymore the things that you can get. You know, when you had the teenagers we would go to teen jams at Pirate's week. Now there's one. Or whatever I can go to kid, I can go to wherever I can go, do this. So the exclusivity that Pirate's week probably once held is no longer held anymore. So I don't envy, you know, that department, those people who are behind the scenes trying to revive that and keep that going, because every year it's like the iPhone thing, it's like new, new model number, but scene type of scene, type of phone, basically.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, we'll tell them to hit us up.

Speaker 2:

Hit you up, can you do? Hit up on the scene. Hit up on the scene.

Speaker 3:

They should be reaching out to us, to Jevy, people that are coming into the space, that can push things forward like that, okay.

Speaker 7:

That might be something worth it. Public-private partnership.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we talk a lot about, you know, government kind of being behind the times with a lot of things, I think, where you have more younger people within teams like, in particular, I know those that are involved with Pirate's week are not as elderly as some other members in government so then there should be a fresh approach. But then you need to really start to involve people of the public, some other stakeholders and making decisions as to how to make that more, more profitable and more of a benefit to people who are here, or if it really is going to be pushed as a tourism product, then figure that out as well.

Speaker 6:

I think everybody would agree with the sentiment that you just said. But people also need to consider and he will get this certainly working in government Government has to work extremely hard to maintain their image and the problem is when you have a public event that is paid for by the public purse, that risks embarrassing the government, especially if it's a tourism. So they're not embarrassed already? It probably is, but guess what? That's probably a bill that they're willing to pay. The example I try to use is on the scenes. Entertainment is probably an extremely great event for a lot of people. They are actually.

Speaker 6:

However, you put that on for the government and that might not be suitable as a government program.

Speaker 2:

You're going to have different restrictions, exactly.

Speaker 6:

You're going to have different restrictions, you're going to have a different clientele that they're aiming towards and that those little nitty gritty is what people don't often see. A private event good could make a public event by the public purse bad.

Speaker 3:

But that's why you would merge together the groups of people in order to come to some kind of common ground and figure it out.

Speaker 3:

Because we are successful in what we're doing. We can prove that time and time again. I don't go to Pirates Week anymore because it's a fucking embarrassment. Why am I going to take my son out there to do what? That's not what I experienced as a child. They're not giving me anything, they're not showcasing anything. They're not putting together a proper schedule for anything. They're not giving you enough advance notice. Are you talking about them? The fucking list goes on. The first year that they have started doing not, when they changed it into Pirates Month, that it now is last year when they did this big overhaul of every single thing. Any more guns, please? They did not. I thought Parisians always had a schedule.

Speaker 2:

No fight they didn't have food yeah they didn't have food Saturday we had the fucking mandate. The only one sat here, to help with.

Speaker 3:

East End heritage but no, you're missing my point, though. My point is that they went from everybody always knowing, understanding, feeling, just anticipating it to you. Didn't even know until it was a week before. It's like, oh, part sweet. Next week. All of a sudden, you saw it in the newspaper. Like this year, I will give them credit because I bitched about it last year. I will bitch about these things until Kingdom come, because I'm a very organized person and I look for this information so I know when it's essential to put out into the public, because, if I know generally, it was in November. So I'm going on the website. The little countdown is still saying 2022, 2021, whatever the fuck it is that's supposed to be changed from the following day. Like if that is your job, like you are literally committed, dedicated to that, you need to figure out shit out.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna show them some bill, though they definitely have many hearts.

Speaker 3:

No, I also understand that, but you're sitting on a committee.

Speaker 2:

No, you're right, that's our national festival, though If the calendar is up the time or whatever it is, it's still. Yeah, you're absolutely right, that's a problem.

Speaker 3:

That's our national festival.

Speaker 6:

I would just add that people who are working on Pirates Fest as is now known, that is not the only project that they're working on.

Speaker 3:

No, I'm aware of that and, for 100% clarity, I understand that that's not someone's dedicated job, but then we need to identify the gaps that are allowing us to not improve this product.

Speaker 6:

So, would you say, a lot of people are not going to Pirate Street because it's the same thing over and over again now.

Speaker 3:

No, I think it's the lack of excitement that is added to it, but is the same program? 30 years in a box.

Speaker 2:

No, but the thing is, we went from having.

Speaker 3:

no, we went from having performers come to nobody coming. You went from having Keysha says stop spending the money.

Speaker 5:

That shit costs. Oh, jesus, god, yeah, this keysha fought.

Speaker 3:

It costs money. But then this goes back to our point of oh, you're going to be willing to spend the money on something that actually could really benefit the island Because you're telling us we broke or we can't spend certain amounts of money.

Speaker 2:

You know I'm not, but that is something that could be a good tourism product. Y'all, don't pay $20,000 or turtles.

Speaker 3:

I fucking quote there and played a $20,000 for the con.

Speaker 2:

Y'all don't pay to get into the event.

Speaker 3:

No, no, no, that is not fair, it's called $75,000.

Speaker 4:

It's that we want value for our money. If we're going to pay $20 for the concaveness and then that makes sure it's quality.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Frankie, my water no it's not.

Speaker 3:

No, it's not. I shouldn't be going to Pirates Week, and there's absolutely no offense to these cultures, vendors, whatever, but my majority of my food options should not be from other nationalities, and that's what it's been.

Speaker 5:

Well, I'm to the magnetic earrings and things.

Speaker 3:

I should have just you blew up things.

Speaker 5:

You can put it in your mouth. Yeah, like, I'm sorry, I'm not.

Speaker 3:

I'm not taking an excuse for like. For how did you let up a big, big product of our culture which we do not have enough of, Enough of for our kids? I do not have anything to take my kid toe of a large scale in relation to our K-Manian heritage and culture, because y'all are doing it half-assed and I feel free to slide in my DMs and correct me. Feel free, but let me tell you I'm also a heritage queen. I've been in the little frigging pirates whatever you want to keep your vibe? No, like I'm not somebody.

Speaker 3:

I'm not somebody that just like oh you know, oh yeah, I'm from K-Manian, that's it. I genuinely love being here. I love being from K-Manian. I will never live somewhere else, all right, so let me.

Speaker 2:

But I'm also raising somebody. So just to get back on the positives here, you're willing to volunteer and donate your time if asked to be a part of Okay, got you.

Speaker 3:

Yes, that's my issue.

Speaker 5:

We're gonna say that last part again. Say what you said. You heard what I said it had the V in it.

Speaker 2:

It had volunteer.

Speaker 3:

Well, rashad might not be, but I am willing to, and I've said that multiple times on this podcast. And call me, message me, ask me do something that's the plus.

Speaker 2:

That's the plus is that we need our people to stand up.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like I'm willing to be a part of something.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm gonna give you that. I'm gonna give you that.

Speaker 3:

Listen, I'm not gonna be bitching and complaining and still be a part of the problem, but for fuck's sake, it's like I'm not bringing my son out there to be like, yeah, you know, this is what. This is not what I grew up on.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, mankela, join, join Piracy, and just Let you know how it goes. No, no, no, join it. I know what he's saying You'll be quiet. You'll be quiet.

Speaker 3:

I know where he going with that. I know where he going with that. But yeah, I mean like and I know people don't want to get their ass handed to them by somebody like me or whoever else or whatever, but we have to hold you accountable. What do we have? Like Javi said, what money is really going into our cultural aspects of the island that we can take our kids to and continue to immerse them into?

Speaker 2:

But someone argued that Piracy is not our culture.

Speaker 3:

I know who you're not arguing with. I'm about that. I don't I would disagree, but you know.

Speaker 4:

It is a part of our culture, just like the slaves, that I don't want to discuss. But I guess that's fine with me. Oh, I know them All right, please. First time you know Big, big petrol plantation. I never know them, you never know them, mm-hmm, okay.

Speaker 5:

I wasn't around them times. You never went and go watch the video.

Speaker 6:

I get the frustration that a lot of people have with things like Piracy. But I think some of the complaints that I heard, I also experienced them with other private events, which is why I don't go to much private events anymore, and it's because a lot of the events end up being the same thing year on year. It may be a different venue, it may be you know a couple of different DJs, but at the end of the day, a lot of these events, and no offense to present company. I know this is your line of work, but a lot of these events I used to go to that I don't find that I go to them anymore because I asked myself how much times am I going to go to an event where I'm just going for the overpriced drinks and because they have some DJs?

Speaker 6:

There is no. To the point that Victor made earlier, there's nothing exclusive anymore. Almost all of the events feel exactly the same the same crowd, the same DJs, the same music, the same relative setup that it feels like. How much times am I going to enjoy the same thing? For example, I'm only using this as an example I've never been to Night Carnival, I'm only using it because I see it on Rashad shirt.

Speaker 2:

You'll be missing more. How much?

Speaker 6:

times am I going to go to Night Carnival year on year? The first year I might really enjoy and I might go back the second year. I might even go back the third year, but after that I'm going to start asking myself well, I've done these events so much times. It's not like, say, you go to the event and, oh, there's a quiet lounge over there that if you want to sit down and smoke cigars, you sit down and smoke cigars. If you want to go outside, you have a space outside for dancing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the strippers yeah.

Speaker 5:

I was just going to say, yeah, there's no division.

Speaker 6:

Everything just feels the same, and that's the problem that I had with Pirates Week, when it was kind of going downhill. Is that every single year?

Speaker 2:

Pirates Week just felt the same.

Speaker 6:

You're getting nothing different. So I'd always say it's not picking on a particular event, but a lot of public events. They work out to be the same thing just at a different location.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the advice to possible. Genuinely. You have a point. When it comes to something I would say, yes, of a private nature, but I think when we have something that is directly attached to our culture and our country and it is marketed as something that is a national festival, then you need to learn to be more innovative and you need to remember it doesn't start with our age group. I might not enjoy it as much anymore, but then you need to think of how you're going to cater to the 16 year olds, the 17 year olds, the 15 year olds Still in school that could potentially come and be members of the Pirate Suite Committee, come and be members of Cultural Foundation or decide that they want to try and push our culture in multiple ways beyond what, like you said, the return on that is going to be 15 years from now.

Speaker 3:

What are we equipping people with that they're going to have 15 years from now if we are not putting the time in consistently now and over and over. Like you have to find ways to be innovative. So let's go back now to your private thing. In five years, we can still have people attending it, because what we're not going to do is continue to cater to you in five years. We can cater to the people who started.

Speaker 6:

yeah, we can start catering to the people that started, who are in their party phase. Yes, exactly.

Speaker 3:

So you have to be innovative in the field that you are in and understand how to work that.

Speaker 5:

But if you don't understand, how to work now.

Speaker 3:

You need to get the fuck out of it.

Speaker 5:

If you try cater to old, you know make night. You got cater to the young people that come in. Out that spending a little $25 that the parents gave and whatnot.

Speaker 6:

So yeah, so you don't think that the reason I bring it up. I've had this discussion with my friends. Me and my friends used to go to these events that happened at Cabana or whatever, and it was the shit. But then after a while it just felt like how much times am I going to do the same thing over and over? I think when it comes to discretionary spend events like this in Cayman yeah right.

Speaker 2:

I actually-, especially given the current climate.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, especially given the current climate. But Rashad said something that I didn't think of previous, and Kayla said it as well. They're not targeting people like me. They're targeting those who are just entering their quote unquote party phrase. But I know people in my friendship groups that they don't go to these events anymore because it just feels the same thing. They want to go to events too. They want to spend their discretionary spend and income on things in Cayman. It just feels the same and I don't know Like if there was variety, like, for example, night carnival. If you know what you get in when you go to night carnival the pictures were posted. I happened to be filming there with the film crew at the last one. You know what you're going to get. I give you guys credit the one thing I saw. You guys did that, not a lot of other events are doing.

Speaker 6:

No, no, no, give them credit, because when I read it I criticize them. I really like the fact that you guys did it around a corner when if you went down the road you could get closer to the stage and the further you walk away from the stage and you take a left. If you wanted to stand up there and have a conversation, that you can hear somebody in your general vicinity, it could happen. These things, I wonder what chances do they play in an event promoter's head to cater to different demographics? Because me and my friends would still love to go to these events but we feel like, well, it's not for us. But you just answered the question. We're not aiming for you guys at all.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, and I mean to just go further on that, in the setting of, like, night Carnival or some particular events. No, no, we're not catering to you. However, there are other event concepts that are catering to people, our age group, because don't don't get it twisted. No, we're throwing these parties, but me, rashad and I try and go out every night. We passed that point.

Speaker 2:

Rashad, Rashad, try and go.

Speaker 3:

You phase, Rashad won't go out less than me. That's okay, he is like.

Speaker 5:

Whenever you see me, I'll work.

Speaker 3:

I'll work related so part of the reason on the scene even started was because we recognize that we were coming out of a phase of being in the club or even having the option to be in the club five, six times a week.

Speaker 6:

So we wanted a more mature vibe to party at something not that is geared, if I can just I can't, I can't give that information yet. Oh, you're saying that there's something in the world. Yeah, there's one. There's one that was involved.

Speaker 3:

There's one Rashad has definitely done, called list. That's a more private event. It's an invite only party the surplus.

Speaker 6:

And it doesn't mean to, that's my kind of thing.

Speaker 3:

That's right. And when I say invite only, it's not invite only our friends type of thing. It's an exclusive list of people that are more mature, that are looking for a setting where you know you don't have a younger crowd. That is wild, you know.

Speaker 3:

I actually appreciate you still, yeah, you still have the type of music you're looking for, so we're not going to make it boring and dry. You can get all the music. You want access to the bar, you want Shit, you might get some little tapas, whatever the situation is depending on it. But that list party in particular, which was one of the first ones he did, is catered to.

Speaker 6:

More of our I didn't want to say it group.

Speaker 3:

I didn't want to say it out, right, I?

Speaker 6:

didn't want to say it out, right, but because you said it, I think those events, personally, I would want to see more of because I would want to go to those events. I personally want to see events that are limited capacity. I'm really sick of going to events and, correct, I want to go to events that are VIP only events. There's a limited amount of people. You're getting exceptional service.

Speaker 2:

You're paying your money, just saying let's be clear, you don't be wrong. Let's say the word you don't be wrong, you don't be wrong, you don't be wrong, I'll say it I don't want to be around everybody. Say something.

Speaker 6:

Big.

Speaker 2:

Sneak.

Speaker 3:

No, you don't want to get around it.

Speaker 2:

Let me adjust my government. Let me adjust my government. Cape here before I save them again Hungry. But that's the problem. Only that sounds like a great event, but that's the but I think I want Kayla to appreciate and others to appreciate. That is the problem that the government has when you're putting on these events. They can't, they can't specialize in catered to certain groups. It has to be a free-for-all type of thing. Back to our argument. Key should have the day about the music playing at certain carnivals or whatever you have to have. You spend $100,000, for example, you need to hit 12 different target groups and have 12 different events all running same day, same time, because this is when everybody's up.

Speaker 2:

I think people don't always appreciate the monumental tasks that government has when they're putting on these services and these events. Because we can't do a oh, here's what we're going to do. We're going to do a hunt for the list. We're going to do night carnival, we're going to do whatever. Hunt it. We can't do that. We got one shot and it has to cater to the air body because we don't want Ms Nance to call them on the radio cousin and complainant. We don't want this 15-year-old feeling like he's in the hot night and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 4:

Well, clearly, the system that they're using does not work. They need to get up to the times that are ahead. Each of these departments that we have qualms and issues with have their own representatives, so they need to get with it and we need to hold them accountable.

Speaker 6:

Okay, okay. What are you holding them accountable to?

Speaker 4:

Whatever it is that, whatever issue it is that we need addressing, if they say that this is on their manifest, this is their agenda, then get on it. If you say that you will help me with this issue, we as a community need to stick on them and say listen, you said that you would follow through. Your word is all you have at the end of the day. Are you going to stand up on it or keep it closed Out of curiosity.

Speaker 6:

Do you generally accept what politicians say?

Speaker 4:

Me no. Exactly.

Speaker 6:

So then, how are you going to turn around and say that, oh, you're one of these people in the chat. Well, at least if you again start again the message, the conversation.

Speaker 4:

Keep the conversation flowing. Let me ask you a repeat you, as an MP, die your job, regardless if I don't believe what you say. That is your job. You need to stick to your messaging. That is your job.

Speaker 2:

Let me get out of here real quick on a notable line. Javi, you're in a relationship, okay yeah, do you appreciate when your person lies to you to protect you?

Speaker 6:

Wait what.

Speaker 3:

Protect me, like how.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, I don't say you need to give it a little more detail.

Speaker 2:

Do you appreciate your person lying to protect you, to protect your feelings, to protect your image?

Speaker 6:

Oh well, I don't think. I don't think my girlfriend she definitely lie.

Speaker 2:

You're in the song. Because I'm very listen Do you appreciate your girl lying to you Of each other when we need to be. You got to deal with my ear. Let me see if I can get a D-R on you. Yeah, you appreciate your girl lying to you, rashad, you appreciate your.

Speaker 5:

I know I'll be the only one. I know why that's not on you. I want to Do you appreciate your girl.

Speaker 2:

Hell yeah Okay. Your girls are lying to you on a daily basis to protect your ego, bro.

Speaker 4:

I need to go in on Vic, please.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Lana. Lana said that all the time.

Speaker 4:

Do tell. What is it that you think that your girl?

Speaker 5:

lies to you, to just like you know what we need to get into those screenshots they posted in the group. That is shit. We need to get into that bullshit.

Speaker 4:

The Lulu test. Yeah, what's that? I think I'm the most delusional of the group.

Speaker 6:

What's that test? I missed that one.

Speaker 5:

It was so I think girls have to list out their ideal mind and it would tell them the percentage.

Speaker 4:

Very minimal.

Speaker 5:

It would tell you the percentage of the male population. Can't pull together a test. I can probably do one Showing how girls are delusional.

Speaker 2:

What am I supposed to say?

Speaker 5:

No.

Speaker 4:

I'm finding it.

Speaker 2:

It was like a webpage, basically, and you want to put in what are some of the characteristics of your ideal male partner. So, obviously, salary was one of them.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I didn't give up on mine.

Speaker 2:

Marital status, race, height, weight and salary.

Speaker 6:

It was like a build up beer for my mind basically, and it tells you what is that percentage of Keisha never sent her salary.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I don't know what up there. 150k Come on.

Speaker 5:

Keisha. There's only 1% of people that make Listen.

Speaker 4:

I already tell you now I have a standard Meet me there.

Speaker 5:

No, no, no, already said it, so now we got to bring up the goat. No, you guys really bring up the goat. Kevin, tell Jevy, Because this is all Kevin.

Speaker 4:

Someone's been saying yeah, but I could say that because I bring that to the table, so don't. Keisha wanted a black visit. You need to at least meet me where I could be Stop playing with me.

Speaker 2:

Keisha wanted a black one between the A's of 30 and 35.

Speaker 4:

That's correct. Unmarried, preferably black right.

Speaker 2:

Unmarried, makes $150,000 a year.

Speaker 4:

How you know what mine was and I never sent it.

Speaker 2:

I know some of the details because it's in the summary the percentage of male that fit that description.

Speaker 5:

It's less than 1% Easy.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, 0.0088.

Speaker 5:

Okay, so think about that.

Speaker 2:

So single forever, that is 0.065 of all black men in that age range period.

Speaker 4:

I would also like to point out that is in the US population, and I wouldn't even start here.

Speaker 6:

Would you be okay with a man being that subjective about you?

Speaker 4:

What do you mean? Subjective, of course not Okay For me to fit those criteria, but that's how I want to date.

Speaker 6:

No On a date with another little class no, not to fit those criteria, to fit his own criteria. I would feel that all people should date within how they feel to that's how I would feel to you think it's okay if I say I can't speak for them. I can only speak from my perspective If I say that a woman is not good enough because her boobs ain't big enough?

Speaker 4:

No, but I never said that. And not good enough. I never said that. I said this is my standard. Check me here.

Speaker 5:

Never said about what's good enough or not good enough.

Speaker 4:

No, that's what you said. No, keisha, that's what you said, you literally said your guy has to be making one fist. No, that's what I said, that's what I want, okay, so anything below that is not.

Speaker 5:

But anything below that is unacceptable.

Speaker 4:

I never said that You're putting words in my mouth, oh my God I might be open to compromise? You don't know, you haven't asked you just assume, don't put words in my mouth, no. I put it there, but you never give me room for compromise. I can stand on my word. You don't worry about that. You don't worry about that. You want to go? Let's go when we going.

Speaker 5:

So you see, if we did that, we talked about.

Speaker 2:

Kayla's age range. Bro, Kayla's age range was 27 and 45. What? About my age range.

Speaker 5:

You know the percentage Keisha got on. That is from the States. You know in Cayman that's a lot less.

Speaker 2:

It's way lower, it's way lower.

Speaker 5:

So it's like I do think it's a joke but it's, yeah, but it's, but still. Nobody's that generally how some girls will be, you know Let me do Kayla's real quick. You have these high expectations and we don't. Nobody fits it.

Speaker 2:

Kayla. Kayla wanted not married, Hence why I am single.

Speaker 4:

None of you fit the criteria, let it be heard. You heard it here first.

Speaker 2:

Somebody going to challenge that one? I don't worry, kayla wanted not married, blocked at least five, six. He's short Anyway and earning at least 70k a year between 2070 and 45.

Speaker 5:

No, that wasn't me coughing at that, I literally.

Speaker 2:

It'd be your friends and I, kayla, no, I should have just coughed at this rate.

Speaker 3:

Kayla was 0.091% you don't need to say that, but when I changed the race To any race, I think it went up. To any race. It went up to what was that 8%, 8.5. Yeah, you getting that age range so it just Well, that thing just being fucking prejudice.

Speaker 2:

No, it's how probability works. If I was to build something like that, for.

Speaker 3:

Cayman, I would be called a higher percentage. So the one who's driving the car first.

Speaker 5:

Because Black men 30 to 35 and Cayman making over 150,000?.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's her problem. I can't bother to take that stress on. But fine, as I'm already that made that kind of money, I just need you to come and help me pay my bills.

Speaker 5:

But you know what? There's some of the people.

Speaker 6:

I've always seen this, where women have these extremely high standards of what they want for a man as they should, but yet they don't meet that standard in them.

Speaker 4:

I literally just said Hold on. Not because you say you meet the standard, Not because you're my Frankie's Me you actually meet the standard for me, not because you say you're born to me, then you're not mine, we're not equally yolks and I wouldn't look for you. I wouldn't come for you. We're not equally yolks, clearly.

Speaker 5:

You want a guy that make this amount of money. He is in the 1% of the population that's doing it. Why, then, he has unlimited choices at that point? What is so special about whoever the female is that he's going to pick that person.

Speaker 2:

Ding dong.

Speaker 5:

So you have to know, like, where you're going for him. You realize, when you reach those levels of males, then per se they won't be able to pick, choose and refuse what they want. So if you're not bringing something to the table like you demanding of them, then Would you say that you want a man who is emotionally supportive?

Speaker 6:

No, but not no, just it, I'll just do it.

Speaker 2:

Do I want one?

Speaker 6:

Who has some level of emotional integrity.

Speaker 4:

I require that in all of my relationships, Platonic friendship, family, romantic.

Speaker 5:

Talk to the shit queen Cool.

Speaker 4:

Good, that's a basic necessity.

Speaker 6:

But do you give that in return to the way that they are? I do Not. The way you intend to give it, the way they intend to receive it, I do.

Speaker 4:

I do and I've been called out about it because I'm very self-aware about it. I know I could be aggressive, but I know, depending on the type of situation that you come to me about and who I'm speaking to, I know when to turn it up or when to turn it down. My friends and I have created a safe space, a safe environment to do that, because, at the end of the day, that's who you need your friends, your village Because the vast majority of the women no, I know that.

Speaker 6:

I know I have a higher standard that they expect for a partner that they can't give it.

Speaker 4:

Let me tell you something, javi, nothing changes if nothing changes. Y'all sit up and talk about oh, we friends, but then you can't go to your friend and talk about, oh, something that's happening, yeah, you should be able to. If you call in somebody your friend, you should be able to go and talk to them about anything. Create those braces so you can be crying about, oh no, I don't have that. But then you know, creating it be the change. You won't see all right?

Speaker 5:

Well, I go in teller now.

Speaker 4:

I will say that I even said that when I put the screen shot there I said well, we already knew that it.

Speaker 5:

What we're going to say. Some of the people that are making 150k, they're not coming up on them starts because of what they're doing, of course. So if you, if you good with, if you good with that type of lifestyle, then by all means you can get 150k you want, but you gonna be, you gonna be looking over your shoulder every second.

Speaker 3:

So if you want, If you need me to be Griselda Blanco baby, I will be okay.

Speaker 5:

Making over 150 dinner, showing up or not, cuz because some of the stuff that they do it. Oh it's not like you know. Yeah, it's not like a legit days work. So if that would keyshaw wanna make it ten times worse. If you say you owe me, the drug dealers shoot us everything. Know your percentage going higher Because then then no, you can get that week.

Speaker 4:

Why does always come out to me and my day? I think I am not looking for love, that's all they always, always all stomacher.

Speaker 2:

I don't want my question. I said do you like his woman?

Speaker 4:

Okay so about to the question. The lion saying is I know for me, don't lie to me. I can't fix the life. Give, present me with all the thoughts, present me with the truth, and then we could go from there. But don't lie to me. We're gonna like me then you break trust. Big light, small light and a light, if you like. To me you a thief and if you see you a murder. You go far we go, yeah, so extreme.

Speaker 5:

So make you mean you say your girl like you, to protect your ego, that like somebody, go to your girl and be like Boy. You know so and so never smell too good. Today you know so, you with you all you'd want her like you see and say that you don't smell away. Are you gonna tell you?

Speaker 2:

No, I talking like say, like, say like ten minute her DMs and she just be like, yeah, that one person. No, I don't know them ten men in my DMs.

Speaker 4:

Get on your shit, or one of them will yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 5:

No girl is fucking saying that shit. No girl, what you should just said nobody is saying no girl is saying that yeah.

Speaker 4:

Times have changed now.

Speaker 5:

My DMs step up, all right cool, go talk to them then I will.

Speaker 6:

So my girlfriend has told me like how much, how much people In her Dm. I love this.

Speaker 2:

She has not.

Speaker 6:

she has not said to me oh she's like. Step up that I'm gonna move off. She's literally said these are the people in my DM and I find it really annoying, or this one used to be see, that's like that we talk about.

Speaker 2:

That we talk about. She said a annoying.

Speaker 4:

It may be one of the ten why no? But it depends on the dialogue that you have, your partner.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, you may be in some threat, but she, she's lying if it's a general rule, I try to encourage her to be as Blunt with me as possible because I know I'm accidentally now women. Women were your feelings, bro. She's gonna have to hurt my feelings because I know I accidentally hurt hers.

Speaker 2:

I think, I think, I think my girlfriend landed me. Bro, I love.

Speaker 6:

Her sometimes make me feel like I'm the only one you see.

Speaker 2:

Just lighted me like keep me, keep me home.

Speaker 4:

Oh, you want being the Lulu.

Speaker 2:

Yo, if you come on, but I think you have a real group child consciousness in the beginning.

Speaker 6:

So you're telling is that your nickname is no longer. What was his DJ Nickname?

Speaker 2:

DJ crumbs edit I wanted to.

Speaker 6:

I wanted to write off right to get a report for DJ crumbs, but I think we are officially changing your name from DJ crumbs to the Lulu, so the Lulu.

Speaker 5:

Sometimes, sometimes I feel they do in a cousin. They mean you feel they do they do because you know some. You know some people where you know be like some people that you consider like cool and Like a virgin or whatever would be in there being a baby, and they choose not to tell you that. Yeah, just because they probably know the type of person you or you might go say something, do something look at the over there shaking that a thought of it three play queen.

Speaker 6:

And they'll dirt. You can slide to me, you can slide my girlfriend DMs all you want cuz. I told her, and I'll say it publicly I'll fight for you, but I won't fight over you. So go, go, go, go right ahead.

Speaker 3:

I don't know you calling me out for the kind of saying nothing.

Speaker 2:

I know killer be landing in my mind.

Speaker 3:

I don't be like a new buddy. That's why my ass is still single. That's why I'm so single, because I am very fucking honest and most people cannot handle a woman with a strong. I already told and I would mind going Birkin gonna be quite, but no.

Speaker 3:

I just I can't bring myself to be Honest with somebody. What I will probably do, though, is be a little too nice, but I know talking about if I had a boyfriend. I just talking about like if there was a guy that's interested in me. I do entertain them in like a very low-level capacity of just being friendly, like if they mention me, say, hey, how are you day going? Like, I'll probably continue with that no more longer than I should. I will admit that, but I don't like to hurt. Do not have a man.

Speaker 5:

I don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 3:

But that the next thing. I don't really be interested like that. And then they still keep messaging like men don't do men ever thought of. No but I do men have. It's not an accusin like I'm.

Speaker 6:

Promise you, I have an answer for you.

Speaker 3:

I know you do, I know you do. Do men ever have like that intuition, like, oh, she probably not into me, like that?

Speaker 6:

No, you know why? Because women always go and tell you that they want a man who can communicate. So since you want a man that can communicate, you better communicate and say you're not interested. You can't read between the lines, and he's struggling to read a sentence.

Speaker 5:

I definitely need one. I definitely Answer killer question, if I know, oh.

Speaker 3:

My god. Anyway, okay, I thank you. Thank you for your answer, jevon, and I will say again this is probably why and I've actually been reading up a lot about this, because I keep getting men Asked me why are you still single? You should be married by now. My standards are fucking high, and you know what? I am very transparent, I am very open and very honest and I'm very fucking opinionated, and when I get to that point to be like that with men, they don't like it.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, we are so I promise you, all of the men that I know would rather you tell them upfront that you're not interested in them. Then to lead them on. For the conversation. Without a doubt there's. I don't, I don't give a damn. If you a Good man, a shit man. I don't care what your category is. You don't want to be led on and I think women character.

Speaker 4:

No, but also know how to take her know, so you try to be nice about it college, college made me learn that. How many of you go to college?

Speaker 5:

Right, we mean how many of you I seen what a word. I've been using anomaly.

Speaker 4:

You're an anomaly, but so I seen a lot of y'all don't know how to take rejection and how did like when we say no.

Speaker 6:

Women don't know how to give rejection, but go on.

Speaker 4:

But women don't know take rejection yet, because y'all are predators, y'all ready to pounce. Can we protect ourselves?

Speaker 6:

No, we should be able to say no.

Speaker 4:

This is my body, my choice, my rules if I say no, I should not feel Like I should have to protect myself because I said, no, this is, but that's the point.

Speaker 6:

We're not talking about a woman saying no. We're talking about a woman who does not say no instead of saying that is why.

Speaker 4:

That is why she doesn't say no, because she's afraid Fair that's exactly my point fair is why we don't say no, so we be nice about it.

Speaker 2:

I was just talking about, like in the DM, I think it's delete and block.

Speaker 6:

I mean I was yeah, that's right, you can always delete, we don't talk about our vine in my DMs because I'm not accessible like that.

Speaker 5:

So again, that's a personal preference and fix the way that you people access you please don't, please don't, please don't call Just men predators, because women are the biggest fucking predators. And if I wanted to, yeah. But yeah, but if I feel that way, the stuff that women do, in the way they approach, and the things they say If I, if I wasn't like how I am, I could. I could have gone and report half of that.

Speaker 4:

Okay, I know, taken away from the point, that, yeah, women or can be predators to, but nine times out of ten men, when men will just take it to a further level. Correct, a further level. That is the point that we're trying to meet. Don't try to blow this out of proportion.

Speaker 5:

It's not cuz. Y'all are predators.

Speaker 4:

No well, we can both be predators.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

I just asked one question. You know what you be doing. You be stern about you. Call you chef. No, okay, she called me you um, let's go there.

Speaker 2:

D ready to go, de-flagging me.

Speaker 6:

Listen to. Parliament, guys, is coming up. It started already. Yeah, you see, you want to talk real quick. Yeah, yeah, cuz it's up and I want people to stay informed as possible. Parliament met for the first time. Oh, I don't want to say today, because on Monday, oh, so I choose a Tuesday, tuesday, tuesday on Tuesday.

Speaker 6:

Yeah, parliament met on Tuesday. They they went through several Bills that received their first reading. Their first reading only means that they said the name of the bill and they read it in Parliament. That's considered his first reading. His second reading is when you see members Get up on the floor and start to actually have debates. After they have debate. They didn't have the third reading and the third reading is when it's passed and and made into law. So that happened on Tuesday. They did the oh Gosh, I forgot what they did now. Oh, they did the public lands amendment law, which we can get into that in another episode. They also did one, the plant protection Bill they did as well. So if you're interested in any of those things, go over to the CIG TV YouTube page and you can watch it tomorrow.

Speaker 6:

Oh gosh, sorry, on Wednesday in Parliament they'll be doing the proceeds of crimes bill. The Attorney General will speak directly to that. So that's talking about money laundering and and and what happens if you get, if you get ill gotten gains. And then on Thursday is called private members motion, which is when the opposition this is when you know they're their things come as a priority. So their things come before the government their motions and and and they bills. They have nine, nine motions that they expect to bring. The opposition can't ask the government to do anything. They can only ask the government to consider something, and so there's nine. Vic mentioned one earlier about pepper spray. There's, there's some that some interesting ones that are coming up, some relating to CUC, some some related to to.

Speaker 2:

The buses as well. So the buses, well, no, the buses was a question, I'm a question.

Speaker 6:

Yeah that that occurred. Today. Sir Aldeba Glucklin asked for an update on private schools using school buses and the minister responded that it is something that they want to do. It's just way more complex than people realize. The last time it was brought up by the government or sorry, it was brought up in Parliament the government did vote that they would, they would fund it so they would pay for it. But it's bigger than just the government paying for it.

Speaker 6:

They also have to look at child safety concerns. Where are the catchment areas? As in you live in this area, you catch this bus and stuff like that. And there's also problems with bus owners as well, who they already use all their buses for the public school system. So they're talking about buying new buses in order to service these private schools, and these bus drivers are saying if you're not Guarantee me the contract, how can I? Why would I buy my bus? How can I invest in buses? So you know it is something we all feel, especially, you know, when private schools are out. But you know those are some of the things happening before Parliament and, as I said earlier in the podcast, parliament dot KY is the official Instagram page and CIG TV YouTube page For Friday's is committee, which I was gonna say don't worry about the dates, because at the end of day, you can go and watch it online.

Speaker 2:

Right? So just go to CIG TV. If you do miss a date, you can speed it up, rewind it faster or whatever.

Speaker 6:

Whatever don't don't make the five hours or three hours Determine you. You can always hit playback speed and double the playback speed, and so if it's an hour and 50 minutes long, you play it at double speed. You're still hearing everything they have to say and you get out in pretty quick time.

Speaker 2:

Um, real quick, really, with some wisdom, real quick Um.

Speaker 5:

There's no more. No more speeches from pride.

Speaker 2:

There's only the wisdom.

Speaker 4:

You don't ever worry about whether or not your man is got other women.

Speaker 2:

No, not if he's doing what he's supposed to do at home.

Speaker 5:

Oh, Because I would think you would want him to yourself. You don't want to have to share no man with another woman. How would you ever know the difference?

Speaker 2:

Oh Well, I guess if you look for the difference you probably find it, but To me you just waste a lot of your time that you could be doing something you like to do, some man.

Speaker 6:

Is that a video of Keisha in the future? I?

Speaker 5:

Probably married for 50 years.

Speaker 2:

She know what's the time. It is one. Get your king and settle on. He calls you out one. We know, I know you, my girl, don't worry. You say it is.

Speaker 5:

It is. It is on any listen to some Kevin Thomas man.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 2:

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Academic Groupings and Social Media's Impact
Balancing Parental Vigilance and Trust
Parental Expectations and Teenagers' Behavior
Debate on Identity and Parental Expectations
Deception, Cleanliness, and Social Media Impact
Concerns and Issues in Education Discipline
The Evolution of Physical Education
Immigration Reform and Government Contention
Government Disarray and Public Perception
Gun Laws and Pepper Spray Discussion
Debate on Funding for Sports
Pirates Week and Private Events Critiques
Event Preferences and Government Accountability
Ideal Dating and Relationship Compatibility Standards
Dating Standards and Communication in Relationships
Parliament and Members Motion Updates